Gender-Affirming Care Is Dangerous - I Know Because I Helped Pioneer It
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> The academy's unwillingness to host Kaltiala and other likeminded clinicians suggests that even this moderate stance may now be a bridge too far for America's premier child psychiatry association, where even senior officials are raising concerns about ideological capture.
> AACAP has chosen "advocacy over science," Kaliebe said in an email to James McGough, who oversees conference programming, after the second two panels were nixed. In response, McGough conceded that politics likely played a role.
> "I actually share some of your concerns about AACAP ... coming down too heavily on one side of politically charged topics," McGough told Kaliebe in a May email. Decisions about conference programming, he added, are "based on input from various AACAP committees." If the gender committee is "too one sided, the program committee is in a tough spot. Our committees are considered our experts."
> The exchange illustrates how a small group of activist doctors can suppress the viewpoints of clinicians who disagree with them, creating the appearance of medical consensus where none exists.
https://freebeacon.com/campus/they-support-sex-changes-for-c...
One pushes mainstream evidence based treatment, the other pushes socially conservative, Christian values, based "treatment".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Academy_of_Pediatrics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatrici...
> But the ones who came were nothing like what was described by the Dutch. We expected a small number of boys who had persistently declared they were girls. Instead, 90 percent of our patients were girls, mainly 15 to 17 years old, and instead of being high-functioning, the vast majority presented with severe psychiatric conditions.
and after treatment...
> The young people we were treating were not thriving. Instead, their lives were deteriorating. We thought, what is this? Because there wasn’t a hint in studies that this could happen. Sometimes the young people insisted their lives had improved and they were happier. But as a medical doctor, I could see that they were doing worse. They were withdrawing from all social activities. They were not making friends. They were not going to school. We continued to network with colleagues in different countries who said they were seeing the same things.
This is entirely false. The New York Times did not corroborate any of Reed's allegations of wrongdoing against the clinic, and large parts of it have been disputed by patients and parents of patients.
https://www.assignedmedia.org/breaking-news/jamie-reeds-alle...
https://www.studlife.com/news/2023/02/22/wu-denies-ags-reque...
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/parents-push-back-...
> Claim 18: "The psychiatry services were limited and could only serve patients who were 'not too severe,' which meant that many patients were being sent to the already overburdened emergency rooms for suicidal ideations, for self-harm, and for inpatient eating disorder treatment."
> An outpatient clinic does not provide emergency inpatient care. It is normal for patients whose symptoms are severe enough to require emergency treatment to be referred by such a clinic to an ER. The NYT found patients from the Center were referred to the ER. That the ERs were overburdened, and that better options weren't often available for youth in severe crisis, is a sad reality of the U.S. mental health system. It is not something that can reasonably be laid at the feet of an outpatient service for a vulnerable group of young people that everyone agrees is at a higher risk of suicide.
But what the New York Times article (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/23/health/transgender-youth-...) actually said was:
> At the trainings, E.R. staff shared concerns about their own experiences with their young transgender patients, which Ms. Hamon later relayed to her team and university administrators.
> The E.R. staff, she wrote in an email, had been seeing more transgender adolescents experiencing mental health crises, "to the point where they said they at least have one TG patient per shift."
> They aren't sure why patients aren't required to continue in counseling if they are continuing hormones," Ms. Hamon added. And they were concerned that "no one is ever told no."
That is, the ER departments were getting an unexplained increase in presentations from the clinic's patients despite the treatments supposedly working well. Which really does bring into question the idea that affirmation-only treatment significantly improves mental health.
Besides, the claims listed in the article are just the ones where some amount of truth has been found. If you scroll to the bottom, it has a link to the spreadsheet where you can see the author's tally of Reed's claims, including the claims where the author found no corroboration and ones where the author considers the claim to have been refuted by the available evidence (evidence which includes the third link in my previous comment, which I do recommend you read).
At least hormone induced changes are fairly reversible. Can't exactly cook up a new knee.
The article talks about youth transitioning. Can't hormone treatment during the early years have lasting, permanent effects?
At which point if they still did take puberty blockers at this more appropriate (critical?) age, wouldn't there be permanent effects?
And no. Puberty blockers are well understood (been using for over 50 years), and their use restricted to timeframes where it won't impact the child's development.
But nothing really life altering. Will the child end up looking different if they de-transition after taking hormones, yes. More breast tissue if they took E, and more muscle definition if they took T. However, these are also body developments that can also happen without human intervention.
Anyway, aside from effects on bone density, I did find this:
> One of the disadvantages in adolescent girls who have been treated with GnRH analogues at an early age is the possibility of insufficient skin for penile inversion vaginoplasty. > How Young Is Too Young: Ethical Concerns in Genital Surgery of the Transgender MTF Adolescent
I could be misunderstanding this, but it sounds like there could be lasting effects on penis growth. Wouldn't that make sense, since your body would be getting estrogen during a time where it'd normally be developing in a way where it'd otherwise would be receiving testosterone?
This - being licensed in children, and being used mostly in line with the license - is better than many paediatric meds.
We have a lot of research about use in precocious puberty - they meds are mostly harmless. We don't have a huge amount of research in trans children, but that's for exactly the same reason we don't have research in a bunch of different meds for children.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4...
https://cass.independent-review.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/0...
The Cass review supports transition.
Prior estimates were 90% would desist..
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.6327...
It can, although the GP's assertion that this is more reversible than knee surgery is probably still true.
https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2018/...
Not great numbers, but sample sizes and study integrity, as with the data on gender affirming care, is the killer.
Between 1% and 8%, depending on how detransition is defined. This article found 6.9% (12/175, 6 clearly detransitioning and 6 ambiguous) at one clinic, including anyone who sought and received care over a certain interval.
When an elderly person rejects knee replacement prior to surgery e.g., because they’ve learned the risks, they’re also not counted in the regret rate for knee replacement.
EDIT: Those that disengaged did not complete treatment, therefore they cannot regret completing treatment. Perhaps they regret starting treatment and perhaps they don’t; either way, that’s not the same thing as detransition. I can’t read their minds to figure out why they disengaged, and neither can anyone else.
- trans people who only take hormones,
- who do that and have top surgery,
- who are castrated and,
- who have top and bottom surgery
Personally, I think bottom surgery is not quite there and is definitely a medical frontier and free-for-all. Hormones and top surgery are fairly reversible via application of more money, exercise and time.
Based on that, I am forced to fall back to first principles, and feel that given that the risk of lasting damage is low on some procedures, that those procedures which give perfectly acceptable and also potentially reversible results are reasonable to offer in this way.