> mostly women and children.
Isn't Israel inflicting civilian casualties because Hamas is using human shields? Isn't there a stark moral difference between trying to minimize collateral damage (but still killing civillians) and intentionally fighting out of civilian infrastructure like hospitals?
That ratio is highly unusual compared to other conflicts.
Scale it down to something you can relate to. Someone did something unthinkable to your family, killing many of them. How many women and children, uninvolved in that, are you willing to kill to get to the original perpetrator? Is it justified if the original perpetrator is using them as shields?
Isn't killing innocents because of atrocities to their people the same thing that started this most recent conflict?
Edit:
Compare the number of bombs the US dropped on entire countries over a year's time: https://progressive.org/latest/usa-bombs-drop-benjamin-davie...
You'll see that 6000 bombs in a week (Israel's numbers), into a ~10km x 40km densly populated area, is highly unusual.
If you go after the perpetrator, people are going to die. But if you don't, (different) people are going to die.
One way to look at it is as a stock versus a flow. How many people are you willing to kill today to prevent Hamas from killing X people a year? What's your time horizon?
But another way to look at it is: Families of civilians killed have some motivation to become Hamas fighters. How many Hamas fighters are you willing to create in order to kill some Hamas fighters?
It's a horrible situation. Until Hamas and Israel are willing to forgive each other for past killings, the killings will continue, on both sides.
The Israelis are dropping JDAMs, mortars and artillery into the most densely populated area in the world and Yoav Gallant's said bluntly they were going for "damage not precision"
They have refused hostage exchanges and have already killed some of them (50 I think I read on the Al Jazeera English chyron)
The number of Hamas operatives killed so far is in the low double digits range
They are calling _anyone_ who is currently in Gaza a human shield, not to emphasize their intrinsic humanity, but rather to warn they are targets too
What specific area are you talking about? The Gaza strip as a whole is about 15k people per mi^2. Gaza City is in the 20-40k per mi^2 (sources vary quite a bit).
Going with 40k per mi^2 would put it around 70th on the list of densest cities [1].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_popul...
Source?
Nope, they're doing ethnic cleansing. Just last night Israel bombed the West Bank. Hospitals, schools, restaurants, markets... taking civilians hostage.
* https://twitter.com/Timesofgaza/status/1715876278245470717
* https://twitter.com/Timesofgaza/status/1717151823499268497
* https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1715872245623496930
* https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1718127227026510058
* https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/171820746500984059...
* https://twitter.com/QudsNen/status/1714883129020719488
Market Bombings
* https://twitter.com/PalestineCultu1/status/17158712086195734...
* https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1717182771934703923
Bakery Bombings
* https://twitter.com/Timesofgaza/status/1714542418689712325
It sounds crazy but you really can't believe anything they say.
Also Israel has been terrorizing the West Bank for years, this is well known and well documented by many sources.