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> Yes the military it Canada also swears allegiance to the monarchy in the UK.

Technically the military in Canada swear allegiance to the monarchy in Canada.

The monarchy of Canada is legally completely distinct from the one in the UK. Or Australia. Or New Zealand. Or any other of HRHs realms and dominions.

It’s just that they all share the same monarch and the rules of succession.

It’s actually theoretically possible for Charles to abdicate the throne in the UK but still remain the King of Canada. Which would be utterly ridiculous and it’s not going to happen, but theoretically it could.

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The monarchy of Canada is the monarchy in the UK. But yes you're right. Pedantically we are both accurate as I intentionally didn't say they swore to the monarchy of UK.

In any case it's a distinction that leads to the same guy.

> The monarchy of Canada is the monarchy in the UK.

they're not, they're different sovereign entities that have the same office holder and follow the same rules of succession (from the Act of Settlement)

in the same way a single person can be a director of multiple different companies

The head of monarchy of Canada is residing in the UK. Being a monarch of UK isn't same as being monarch in UK. The Canadian monarch is in the UK, this is fact.

>y're different sovereign entities that have the same office holder and follow the same rules of succession (from the Act of Settlement)

Brother he lives in the same place cause he's the same guy. He's in the UK.

> The head of monarchy of Canada is residing in the UK. Being a monarch of UK isn't same as being monarch in UK. The Canadian monarch is in the UK, this is fact.

this "argument" makes no sense whatsoever

It only makes no sense if you don't understand the monarch of Canada is in the UK, and thus is monarch in but not necessarily of UK. (But really the same dude and mostly defended as separate as some sort of weird commonwealth saving of face about your nation swearing allegiance to the guy who's the monarch of UK)

> The monarchy of Canada is the monarchy in the UK

No, its technically a separate monarchy that happens to have the same current monarch and current rules of succession.

Yes. And they are living in the UK. We're both right.

A monarch is a person (or a type of butterfly) that can travel and reside in various countries.

A monarchy is an abstract system instantiated within the country to which it applies.

The monarchy of Canada does not reside in the UK .. perhaps you're thinking of the current appointed monarch.

An abstract system has no physical location. The actual monarch, the flesh leading it, is in the UK.

This statementof yours:

> The monarchy of Canada is the monarchy in the UK.

is false.

You're right. The Canadian armed forces swear allegiance to the monarch of Canada in the UK, the same man not coincidentally currently monarch of UK. The monarchy of Canada, an abstract idea nebulously exists perhaps everywhere (including in the UK) or nowhere depending on how you consider abstract ideas.

> the same man not coincidentally currently monarch of UK.

As it so happens for the moment.

It's not a bound requirement that such be the case .. as any true student of the history of Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, England, and the Union would well be aware of.

> Or any other of HRHs realms and dominions.

HRMs [edit: just HMs] realms and dominions, actually.

Actually just HMs, if we really want to be that pedantic. :)

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