iPods now considered vintage tech– so of course sold out at Urban Outfitters
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1) Most smartphones lack a headphone jack
2) Most smartphones lack an SD card slot
3) Your phone is probably the most important thing you have on your person, and conserving the battery life is more important than listening to music
I unfortunately ditched my Sansa Fuse mp3 player after I got my first smartphone, because the Galaxy S2 felt like a straight upgrade to a standalone mp3 player at the time, whereas the modern smartphone is, shall we say...no longer fit for purpose?
There's definitely a market for such things, but having looked in the past, the middle-class seems to have fallen out. You either have the dirt-cheap $20 things you see sometimes at Wal-Mart, or you see the $1000+ specialty audiophile players. I kinda wish I had something with my old Sansa Fuse's form-factor, but had bluetooth support and USB-C charging (the proprietary charger being pretty much the only reason why I haven't bought an old Sansa Fuze on ebay).
Stepped on mine. I don't leave anything with a screen on the floor anymore. I still have it, hoping I can extract some old files from it someday.
"Why would you want to use those?" I asked her. "Your phone's camera is way better."
She said she liked "the look" (of the photos) and mentioned that some people she followed on Instagram used them. Turns out there's a universe of retro photo accounts using film, old digital cameras, and old video cameras.
There are also accounts featuring resurrected media from those eras. It looks mundane to me, but triggers some fond nostalgia (see https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/03/style/art-school-instagra...) even for people who didn't live through those eras.
From 1965–Present, the world is in color. The tone shifts a bit, but it's all in color.
1900–1964: Black and white. The world was actually black and white. Sometimes people moved around at a weird frame-rate :)
1800–1899: Color, but very much sepia toned. The whole world was slightly dirty and brownish, but the sky was still blue.
Big Bang–1799: Color, no sepia or nothing.
Of course this is all due to photography and movies. The general lack of both of those before the 20th Century (yeah, I know photography goes back further, but just barely. It wasn't widespread) means whatever images I get from that time period come from paintings and illustrations and written accounts. The sepia I perceive from the 1800s is basically thinking of them in terms of the railroads, westward expansion, etc.
So the result is that when I think about the Roman Empire—when was the last time you thought of that?—I see a richly-colored world like the one we have today. But when I think about WWII, it's all black and white. And the Civil War occurred in a vast, dusty, brownish field.
What I really wonder is whether the photos and videos we're taking in the present will have some kind of subjective effect on how people remember our current time. It feels like we're finally at a point where most media has the fidelity to capture an objective image of the world, but that could just be that since we have the reference point of living through these times our minds can fill in the blanks.
Maybe the original comment I replied to's grandkid will want to borrow their old iPhone 12 to take retro pictures with someday.
I appoligize for the source, but if you scroll down hopefully you get what I mean https://www.boredpanda.com/first-color-photos-vintage-old-au....
Such a great device. My car knows how to control it so I mostly just leave it in the car. Also great on airplanes, with the card conversion it has many hours of battery life.
Amazing how every comparable device made today is so much worse.
Not that I think it would be worth the money given you're already in a good place, just saying the situation isn't as bleak as you portrayed.
How many?
> Amazing how every comparable device made today is so much worse.
Music devices are like cameras, the best one is always the one you actually have with you.
That said, nothing will compare to the tinny sound of a Rio PMP processing 128kbps mp3s that have been recompressed to 32kbps. Sounded like angels in your ears were playing the instruments.
Depending on the device you use, you can squeeze out > 40h of pure listening time.
> Music devices are like cameras, the best one is always the one you actually have with you.
Hehe, nice comparison. But the iPod is not about having the BEST sound quality. It's more about being decent enough in every feature it has. Pretty sure iPods can't compete with the Hi-Res DAPs like Fiio M11 Plus, Astell&Kern, iBasso and others in terms of sound quality. But the user experience may still be better, depending on your personal taste.
I've trialled mSATA, SDXC and Compact Flash.
16 hours is easily achievable using CF and a "fat" back that fits a 1900mah battery. Rockbox provides a plugin called Battery Bench that allows you to benchmark how long you can continuously listen to music for.
Having recently switched from mSATA to SDXC I am yet to run a benchmark for SD. From recent usage I would guess 12hrs is fairly easily achievable.
EDIT: bwoodward has benched 60hrs of playback with a 5th gen Video and SDXC below.
I felt like I never had to charge the thing, so I just let it run. It went for just over 60hrs and still had 5% to go.
I successfully used the 2200mAh batteries from "thepartguru" on iPod classics with iFlash Quad. The advantage over the 3000mah ones is, that it still fits with a thin backplate.
You should also be aware, that putting more than 256GB into the device is considered as "unstable" depending on the content you use. Having more than 50000 tracks may lead to unexpected behaviour (random reboots, showing the wrong covers for items, etc.). Technically iFlash Quad supports up to 4TB microSD space, but in practise it just does not make any sense. I would not use more than 512GB - my most stable experience was 256GB.
The reboot loops are extra nasty, because once they happen, they do at random days of a week and if you don't use your iPod every day it fries your 2200mah battery after a few days of reboot loops... expensive experience ;)
So, you know, I could listen to music.
There was like a two-year period where these monochrome OLED jewels were offered (Sony's NW-E505/7[2] was another gem, horrible PC software notwithstanding), before ghastly full-color LCDs took over. And they topped out at around 4GB (32, if you include the Sansas that came later, which I don't). Damn shame.
[1]https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dah+1500i&iax=images&ia=images
[2]https://www.crutchfield.com/S-PPVgsomq9x6/p_158NWE505B/Sony-...
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Nokia+twist&kp=1&t=ffab&iar=images...
This is actually one of the things that makes me excited for AR (pending workable haptics). So many proofs-of-concept are just floating screens; what about functional digital fascimiles of our old gadgets? What about new ones with wild designs? What about modding the old, physical devices themselves to function as interfaces?
In the meantime, it would be nice if this sudden resurgence of interest in older gadgets makes it easier to rehabilitate and maintain them.
I loved my first generation iPod Nano. It was such a beautiful little thing.
Edit: this will have to do! https://web.archive.org/web/20060529192323/http://www.apple....
Slap a DAC, BT5 connectivity with aptX, and 1TB+ SSD in one of those and I'd buy one.
Honestly, battery life on modern phones doesn't lend well to them playing a full-time second role as a music player. This is what you'd want on a camping trip. Maybe there's a nascent market here
Now we have a single device that solves all three and more (e.g., biometrics) in albeit a least common denominator sorta way. A single form can't expect to complete with specialists.
I prefer a crap device that I use for comms (phone and SMS), and a second device with a better camera and more storage for media that only connects via wifi. There are plenty of instances I want a camera and/or music (often without even wifi) but not the temptation of being full connected.
Most people only listen to music, so they will never miss the awesome audio book and podcast integration of the whole iPod line (besides the good music ability).
The iPod Nano is many years old and still:
- Is REALLY small
- Already has bluetooth low energy
- Supports cable headphone remote controls (EarPods have questionable audio quality, but the remote works absolutely flawless)
- Can play a variety of formats for a really long time with a 220mah battery
- Supports audio book single files with chapters (m4b format)
I modded many iPod Classics with Rockbox and iFlash Quads, but the original interface is hard to beat in terms of audio books. Unfortunately repairing iPod Nanos is really tough compared to the iPod classic 2009 (even this device already supports the cable headphone controls). Currenlty I'm trying to mod an iPod Nano 7G to have a 600mah battery by milling out the backplate, keeping the original BMS and placing an iPod Mini Battery (which fits perfectly in size, when the backplate is milled out). This way I hope I will have the only iPod Nano 7G with interchangeable batteries ;)The best alternative I found so far is the Unihertz Jelly 2(e) Phone with selfhosted Audiobookshelf and different player / sync apps, but the experience is nowhere near the iPod... It's bigger, way thicker and the headphone controls are "unstable". Not to talk about the app crashes, unsupported android background service playing and missing / non-working chapter controls.
Disclaimer: I'm the developer of m4b-tool[1] and tone[2], so I know what I'm talking about :-)
[1]: https://github.com/sandreas/m4b-tool [2]: https://github.com/sandreas/tone
I can highly recommend this site for parts: https://eoe.works/
The click-wheel patent Apple had has finally elapsed.
My biggest worry would be matching the smoothness of the interface - rockbox has been going at least since my iPod Mini was new, and it still doesn't feel right.
A virtual iPod where you can add a Spotify playlist then send the link to your friends.
https://www.jukelab.com/ipod?layout=pink
There are other “vintage” music players like vinyl, cassette, Winamp and MTV.
It's been to 56 countries with me, been frozen at -40C/F many times, used at +50C and about a bazillion corrugations and nightmarish dust. Still going strong.