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The First Cyber Nation-State Recognized by a UN Member Nation

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The 10 diplomatic relationships are absolute bull and borderline fraud. You can't just make a club/org and claim older diplomatic agreements between countries are yours now.

No, you see the diplomatic relationships are "in transition" [1] and based on 150-year-old treaties, this is totally legit. /s

[1] https://www.joseon.com/l/en-US/government/foreign-relations

That treaty ran out in 1910, so even if somehow this successor state was a thing the treaty itself is void I think

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseon–United_States_Treaty_of...

Treaties between sides of that time, which are not necessarily the ones today only because someone says "we are the successor". So before talking treaties, let's talk legitimacy.

Real international law comedy there. What's next, a Republic of Venice themed cryptocurrency?

But I wonder what's up with the 2022 treaty with Antigua And Barbuda. A quick search shows what seems at first impression to be real Antiguan newspapers talking about it: https://antiguaobserver.com/the-digital-dynasty-joseon-pm-sp...

edit: Looks like it's real. https://ab.gov.ag/pdf/Joseon_Cybernation.pdf

Allen Stanford apparently ran his ponzy scheme through Antigua And Barbuda. The country has been called the most corrupt in the world, is a major hub for gambling webpages, and has very strict bank secrecy making it a great place for off shore banking.

https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/llglrd/2018...

> Republic of Venice themed cryptocurrency?

DogeCoin is already taken, and ArsenelCoin might be a hard sell if the football crowd get involved.

Is the email address of the secretary of the prime minister of Antigua and Barbuda really pmsecretariat@gmail.com?!

You can't just declare yourself a "successor state". Also, generally speaking, the generally recognized successor states to the Joseon dynasty are North and South Korea. Also, they only have recognition from Antigua and Barbuda, who will recognize your dog as a successor state if you pay them enough.

Interesting, I knew that Andrew Lee [1] had been declared a crown prince by a pretender to the Korean crown (Yi Seok [2]) since stumbling upon the fact back around the Freenode implosion [3]. What ever this "nation" thing is though, it appears to be on a completely different level.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Lee_(entrepreneur)

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_Seok

[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode#Ownership_change_and_...

Isn't that the same trick over and over? The website links to the Imperial Family Companies https://imperialfamily.com/ and the Imperial Family of Korea https://www.imperialfamily.kr/ which even don't try to hide prior acts like Freenode.

The Democratic People's Republic of Joseon (the DPRK) might take issue with this pretender's claim to that name.

(Korea has two names in the Korean language and the North and South disagree over which name should be used; North Korea's preferred name happens to be Joseon.)

Crypto scam run by the korean monarchy?

Yeah seems goes along the same way at the Estonian digital citizenship that showed up here a few years ago.

Does sound like a PR stunt. Personally wouldn't touch it.

I don't think the Estonian digital citizenship is anywhere near as bad as this, I thought it was a genuine way to get digital documentation within an EU state?

It's quite real, although, in a sense, the word "digital" is just a decoy. What they offer (e.g., digital signing of documents and online access to bureaucracy) should really be the default in the EU (or at least available in every member state, interoperably).

It's digital (or E-) residency, not citizenship. It provides an Estonian personal identification number and digital access to Estonian digital services (which is 99% of all government services + many private and banking sector). There are over 25,000 companies founded by E-residents, and most by people who does not reside in Estonia or even EU.

You shouldn't compare a crypto-scam with such legit service.

Source: Both physical and e-resident of Estonia.

A cursory look at the Estonian thing and it seems 1000% more legit than this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Residency_of_Estonia

mmm has anyone used Estonian digital citizenship. Digital and citizenship just doesn't really sit well for me. But I can be wrong, looking for someone who have actually have a citizenship to comment on the all the legal implication, document manage, etc related to the digital citizenship.

Isn't this Andrew Lee of Freenode (in)fame?

It is Mr Rasengan indeed.

I'm just waiting for bing/chatGPT to start telling us that this is real

This is a fraudulent advertisement for a cryptocurrency. How low are these cryptoshills willing to sink?

I liked the idea until I discovered the web site is selling a crypto. I guess I will wait for the second Cyber Nation-State.

The Very Sovereign Cyber Nation-States of Prussia, the Ottoman empire and Spanish Florida would be pleased to sell you crypto.

I hear that they are also very open to establishing diplomatic relations with Joseon, pursuant to a donation to my personal, I mean, the respective embassies' bitcoin wallets.

This whole thing aside, I do like the concept of a virtual country and citizenship.

Is it a reissue of LUNA/TERRA? What is the nation which recognizes their statehood?

Russian Empire did recognize pre-Japanese colonization Korea likely, I don't see how this implies Russian Federation having any relations with this "cyber nation". It is listed nontheless.

This page [0] shows its Antigua and Barbuda

[0] https://www.joseon.com/l/en-US/government/foreign-relations

It's recognized by which UN member nation?

Antigua. Shame on me, but the first time I hear about this country...

is this the new frontier of cryptocurrency stuff? it looks like an elaborate facade to push a cryptocurrency.

Cryptoland without land. Ok.

> As one of the most powerful and oldest nations in the world

Who wrote this? How is this not satire?

Lol

> 5900 Wilshire Blvd, Unit 2110, Los Angeles, CA 90036, United States

One of the most powerful and oldest nations in the world is incorporated above an LA Fitness

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