Nightshade, a tool allowing artists to 'poison' AI models
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Iirc there was also some license violation with the cloaking code ironically, it was like a pillow fight
Apparently this is the same team and they claim that the previous one was only intended to prevent training on an artist's style.
ML researcher culture is hard to describe... But its something like "Everything is a research prototype, so why does it matter?"
Source? The authors claim this is not the case, and they have experiments showing it.
Simply rescale all images in a preprocessing step.
Since this defeat is so easy, and so obvious, either the authors are daft, or they are brilliant and have thought of a way to prevent it.
So, not wanting to waste much time on a paper from daft people, I did a quick skim of the paper. I don't see any mention of this defeat. No prevention of it, no assessment of it, not even any evidence of awareness of it.
Did I miss something?
I'd hate to see technically naive artist types (a mere subset of artist types, I acknowledge) being hoodwinked by such snake oil and paying money for such "tools."
One could also submit each image to an image-to-image model with a blank prompt and the right settings to essentially ask for almost a copy, and come out with washed images. Could even do a sharpening (or upscale and sharpening for that matter) at the same time. It has a small (tiny really) GPU cost per image but it's a one-time cost.
So I think simply rescaling would be a lot easier.
Even worse, we are prone to being influenced by the decor or surroundings in ways that we know, but still partake in. Mood lighting would be an easy example. And we are very influenced by our other senses at the same time as purely visual. (Though, I'm always amused by how much the VR experience of racing a car hits, all without too much haptic feedback from the steering wheel.)
I think their point might be that we need to figure out how we live in a future with AI in it. Trying to deny AI with tools like this is not going to work.
You know, technological progress. We don't stop it when it affects accountants, delivery drivers, programmers, etc. Art should be no different.
This is good peak of inflated expectations material [1]. LLMs will wholly transform some industries. Others will be virtually unchanged.
Jerks are going to find dumb, lazy, malicious ways to abuse good tools, like they always do, though diffusion does have an conspicuously low effort barrier.
Another HN user summarized my thoughts on this better than I possibly could: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37978805
And that's was some actual AI artists do too. Its massively turbocharging stuff thats they can do in an illustrator or photo editor, but just takes forever. The tooling around diffusion is a deep rabbit hole, and requires some skill to use.
There's an important distinction between that kind of artist and the "AI users" flooding the internet. They are more akin to dank meme makers using Photoshop.
Being forced into an "average" grade sounds okay, but rather, I think, what is happening is that a new baseline for minimum meaningful art was created, and at the same time, new definition for value of art is being established as errors from that baseline. And I'm not sure those are good things.
I'm not saying that we will soon have a state-of-the-art image generation model that relies on self training, supervised learning or adversarial learning rather than a scraped data set, but I think it's a highly likely outcome within the next few years. Anyone making the argument that AI art is just copying might be in for a rude awakening. If that comes to pass, will you eagerly embrace AI art?
My experience with ESRGAN is that it really does not like to train on its own output. It amplifies all sorts of wierd artifacts you can barely see I'd you go back and squint at the finetuning dataset. And there was a paper suggesting newer generative models are similar.
Sometimes you just need some textures to make your game's level look pretty.
Whether you call that art or not is in the eye of the beholder. Compare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_arts
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To quote an artist that I know, "artists already steal. They're the masters at it."
Stealing inspiration and style is how artists learn. It just takes time. They're angry that the time investment is going to zero. And also that their examples are what are being used, despite the fact that other human artists are doing that already.
I'm not sure we should defend any difficulty or complexity. Even that of our own careers.
We'd still be churning our own butter if we were afraid of automation. And what time would that leave us with?
The typical argument against this is that human artists and ML models learn the same way, but the problem is that there's a fundamental difference: humans produce art by abstracting the concepts (think directional lighting, the kinematics of skeletal creatures, color theory, or physics of cloth) from the pieces they've studied and combining that with what they've learned from observing the world around them and by producing original art. This is why a human artist can produce competent art after studying only a handful of art pieces and gain most of their skill through practice.
By contrast, ML models do not learn by producing and have no way to directly observe the world. They don't abstract concepts, they "learn" by memorizing huge numbers of pre-existing images, and they produce images by patching together tiny bits and pieces of of those memorized images.
Where the human artist can function on little to no input, an ML model cannot, and so it's only fair that human artists have the choice to not have their works included in training datasets because if there is no feedstock of art there is no AI generated imagery.
I have a clog you can throw into a loom if it'll make you feel better, but there's no stopping AI art.
You will never get courts to conflate the two issues because they are fundamentally different. I have a constitutional right to my speech. You do not.
But I'll humor you. Let's assume that they sue me. Know what I'm gonna do? I'm going to sue them for the value of their entire corporation for stealing my work.
All progress comes at labor from the past. If you didn't utilize past labor, you would not be talking to us now on the internet. You would be banging rocks against some cave wall instead.
If someone is inspired by art and they become an artist creating a similar style, is that stealing from you too? Is using a computer stealing from the engineers that created them? Is sleeping in a house stealing from the architects and builders?
If someone speaks do they need to pay royalties to the creators of the English language?
This technology is the beginning of creating a real life holodeck. Anything someone imagines they can creatively bring to life. How is it possible there are people greedy and self centered enough to not desire that for the future?
It is hard to follow the logic of your stance. I am genuinely curious about your modality of thinking if you would care to elaborate.
Generative AI is already allowing people to unleash their creativity in miraculous ways, thought impossible previously. I feel your argument is unfortunately extremely dated already. I am also not seeing your connection between holodeck and replicators to Amazon drivers peeing in bottles? I wonder what coal miners have to do to make a living? There are all kinds of grotesque jobs and practices, the aim is to eliminate all of them in time with automated labor, and taking all the necessary supportive actions to make that possible / sustainable. Generative AI distributes creative control and power to everyone instead of those with money to afford it.
You do not. So if you come to steal from me, do not be surprised when I poison the living shit out the well you're attempting to drink from.
The greed here is not from the content creators, but from the wannabe AI overlords who believe they have the right to profit off of other people's work without their knowledge or consent.
You want data to train your AI? Either create it, buy it elsewhere, or pay me according to MY terms. But you won't get it from me for free and I will purposefully make your life hell if you attempt to do so. I don't give a damn about whatever pie in the sky nonsense you can come up with about technology and advancements. Your desire to get rich in the future is not more important than my need to eat today.
This is absolutely correct. However, the tool in question attempts to poison the entire model, including the work you never created.
Not my fucking problem.
Looks like that type of art gets to be a passion project for people again instead of a way to make a living. Creative, passionate people will still create regardless of the machines. The machines will do all the soulless breadwinning artwork. I am and will continue to celebrate this change where raw and pure creative expression is accessible to more people.
If you don't want to adapt, I am sure your financial needs will necessitate getting a new skill you can still monetize, hopefully one that doesn't involve flipping burgers because of a hard-nosed stance (nothing wrong with burger flipping, it is just those jobs will be done by robots soon too).
I think it seems very likely that that this will always be the case: if it is visually neutral enough to be acceptable for use, there will be a way to train systems to generate art that visually resembles the original based on the output.
One cool project for that> https://github.com/jsvine/markovify
(Personally had the most fun outputs when constructing the corpus from technical articles mixed with esoteric babble)
Active defense!
Given that real art is both incredibly cheap to produce and incredibly cheap to distribute I should think those who are so inspired will continue to produce works to inspire us. I mean the advent of printers, cheap prints, and stock images didn't destroy art so why should AI?
Think Alex Grey vs Cameron Gray. Both amazing artists but looking at Cameron's work he clearly is inspired by Alex. Did he steal that? Does he deserve to be shutdown? Maybe he asked permission but is Alex Grey financially burdened by Cameron's existence?
Artists are just mad something can do cool stuff that allows people who haven't spent a decade practicing something to create what their minds imagine.
Most likely though, it will be simple to strip out.
Seriously, there's a "copyright derangement syndrome" going on right now, and these people need to settle the fuck down already.