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Comment by iamtheworstdev | Hacker News Reader

not sure if you're trolling or not but last i heard people simply strapping an exercise/weighted wrist band to the steering wheel which simulated torque being applied to the steering wheel which leads a Tesla to believe someone is paying attention. A quick search on Youtube reveals more than a few videos confirming this.

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You still need to be in the car and in the driving seat ? Unlike cruize which does not require anyone in the car

Which would make the driver responsible not the the company for incidents especially ones which explicitly circumvented controls.

The scenario with cruize is different because the company is responsible for everything

That is outdated information.

It may have been true at the time, but now Tesla uses the interior camera to make sure you are paying attention to the road.

If you don’t want to use the FSD beta, you don’t have to activate the camera, or you can put tape over it. With either of these actions the user can opt out but will not have the ability to use the beta.

Autopilot is different than the Full Self Driving (FSD) Beta.

The FSD Beta uses the in-cabin camera's to do eye tracking and all the other attention stuff.

No I was being serious. Searching turns up defeating the system with someone in the seat but not without. The other commenter provided a video showing it is possible from two month ago.

That’s autopilot, an entirely different thing from FSD beta.

The description in the video said they were using FSD beta.

Ah right. Previous versions of the beta did not monitor the interior camera. Did they state what version they are claiming to be using?

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