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Have you tried perplexity.ai? It has become my go-to for LLM + browsing. It is really fast and does a pretty good job with retrieval and summarization.

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ChatGPT, Claude and prepexity are each $20/mo

Chatgpt4 seems most powerful but Claude offers unlimited context which can be used to summarize entire books

Prepexity can browse and summarize web

Which one should I subscribe to?

Kagi ultimate is 25 a month and has Claude, GPT4, and AI web search. Been using it a month or so and it's great.

Do you have a source for that? All I can find is here [0], which doesn't mention GPT4 or Claude.

[0]https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/ultimate-plan.html

> For Starter and Professional members this mode uses gpt-3.5-turbo, and for Ultimate members it uses gpt-4.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/ai/assistant.html

Thanks! That is good to know.

I wonder why they don't list that under ultimate plan? On pricing page the selling point for ultimate is like: Hey, help us test things and help us by giving some money: https://kagi.com/pricing

It is in closed beta.

How is Kagi for niche stuff? I'm frequently searching for niche and hard to find programming information about processors and whatnot and google/DDG have only gotten worse with time.

Can also try Phind.com

I use Kagi. Probably not better than Google, but often with less junk. It's much better than DDG. The extra features are nice, as are the customizations (boost specific domains, etc.) I thought I'd be !g-ing to find things on Google, but I rarely do, and I'm constantly researching niche stuff. When I do try !g, I generally find that Google doesn't have the results, either. Kagi also seems to do better with really old results that Google has memory holded.

You can try it for free. That's the only way you'll know if it suits you.

The only bummer is that it doesn't have DALLE.

Bing has Dalle-3 access for free.

Just tried it, the free version is really slow (it has been going on 7 minutes now to just generate the first image and still isn't complete) compared with what I'm getting from OpenAI. I'll keep the $20/mo on that, it is worth it.

Wait what? How did I not know this. I need to consolidate my subs into Kagi. Thanks for the info!

Which one is powering their bot which does citations?

I believe it's Claude 2.

Do you know what model perplexity uses under the hood?

I just tried it out with my normal test queries and found it to be far worse than Google's Bard.

Paid accounts can use the Perplexity LLM, GPT-4, or Claude 2.

To be fair, Bard has massively improved recently and can in my brief experience even outperform 3.5-turbo for lots of things.

Except that it still has a short ctx size.

I'd disagree by far. I use Perplexity as my main search engine and am a paid subscriber. Copilot with GPT-4 or Claude is fantastic.

Not in a few months, I should spend more time with that

I love Perplexity.

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