Amazon's Fallout TV series gets a 2024 release date

Yeah no, I didn't laught when the protagonist gf got killed by a "train", or when the Nazi girl cries deformed and powerless in bed before deciding to commit suicide. I did laugh a few other times but categorizing it as a comedy is a disservice, maybe a tragicomedy or something like that would be more accurate.

Was that character in the book or just the movie? They're pretty different.

One of those wasn't that deep unfortunately. I hope they won't go the way of 4.

3 and NV are the shining stars of that series.

4 was shallow but beautiful.

I bet they are going to spend a couple episodes building a base.

Fallout 1 was excellent too, and the series still suffers from the decisions made in Fallout 2 - particularly the timeline jump, the tribals, and the Enclave (which is fun but even more implausible than many of the series' other elements).

Fallout 1 was 84 years after the war, and it was easier to imagine that functioning structures, robots etc. still exist. Fallout 2 was set 164 years after the blast, sadly, and the rest of the series has been stuck there for continuity's sake.

is there a way to play New Vegas on PC? The last time I tried it there was some issue with more than 2 enemy characters being involved in combat at any time. The frame rate would drop to less than 10.

Yeah but did 3/4 reach more people just because there are more gamers now? When fallout 1 came out, video game nerd was still a trope that existed.

Agreed, quality != success.

After all, mass effect was a tremendous success because and most people playing it thought it was a fantastic RPG experience despite tunnel like gameplay, stolen storyline, blend characters and horrible UI. Halo was more emotionally engaging and it was bloody FPS! But they didn't know how incredibly deeper RPG were 10 years before it when it was a niche genre.

Anything that is reaching mass adoption is at the risk of being a shadow of itself.

Baldur's gate 3 is the delightful exception, not the rule.

Damn right.

Fallout 2 let you become a drug dealer, a porn star, enroll in a cult or trigger the end of the world, and they could only display 960x540 pixels.

Fallout 3 lets you look at a mushroom cloud in HD from a distance with zero emotional impact, and call that being a bad boy because of all the anonymous zeros and ones you killed.

Wasteland 2 was what fallout 3 should have been.

> The Exp[a]nse had great writing and is based on great books

Also, the authors of the book were writers and producers of the show.

I Hope it turns out well.

Generally I think Amazon does a good job with the prime original series.

I liked the Expanse. The peripheral was interesting. Even the LotR “rings of power” I found enjoyable, and maybe better than expected after those hobit movies.. Not perfect but it had heart, some humor, good music (Bear Mccready, Fiona apple!) thought a bit too sentimental as LOTR tends to be..

HBO took the “last of us” and did something decent I fall into hope springs eternal camp. But I’d rather play the story than just watch it… I loved the uncharted games, but am never going to see an uncharted movie.

In this case I watched my partner play fallout. It had a story, but you play you, not a specific character. But a settlement always needs your help.

Having recently watched Sentinel and Jack Ryan, and previously The Expanse and TRoP (it's most certainly not LotR), it looks like Amazon is trying to replicate the same formula over and over:

  1. Cliffhangers at the end of each episode.
  2. Multiple red herrings and 180 degree turns.
  3. One *huge* reveal towards the end.
  4. A mixture of grim realism and cynical humour.
  5. Dramatic and often extreme action scenes.

It works for some series, and combined with good writing/acting/directing can result in a solid product (see Jack Ryan, The Expanse); but in other cases it either fails with bad filmmaking (see Sentinel), or simply doesn't fit the underlying material (see TRoP).