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Israel supported hamas till 2020. Also the Bush in 2006 backed a coup for hamas.

The west bank is the two state solution and it's horrible for palestinians. Even after the olso accords the number of illegal settlements went from 120k to 950k

> In fact, the government of Gaza, which is Hamas, in contrast with Israel, both says that it wants to destroy Israel and kill all Jews, and also acts on it. So it's the Palestinian side (or at least Gaza's currently-elected leaders) that are trying to destroy the Israeli state.

Hamas changed it's deal to be the emancipation of Palestine. Remember in front of the UN showed a map of israel without palestinians. the new government is so right wing and borderline facist. this video about the itamar ben gvir guy who was labeled as a terrorist and was too extreme for the idf was in the government. It shows some shit. https://youtu.be/OplM9oNmTfQ

> The west bank is the two state solution and it's horrible for palestinians. Even after the olso accords the number of illegal settlements went from 120k to 950k

It's not actually a two-state solution as it isn't a completely independent state.

I'm definitely against the settlements though. I'd much prefer an actual peace be reached, official borders agreed upon, and therefore the end of settelments.

As for Ben Gvir, I agree - he is horrible. He isn't the entire government, but he definitely represents a fringe (though still far too large) point of view.

That said, Israeli have been protesting this government for a year, for this among other reasons. And like I said, you have to look at actions, not just at the rhetoric, horrible as the rheotric might be.

(And again, I hate Ben Gvir and think it's a travesty he's part of the government. If he were the whole of the government, and the government actually carried out these kinds of actions on Palestinians, then we'd be in a similar situation as Gazans are in right now.)

>Hamas changed it's deal to be the emancipation of Palestine.

Don't write in euphemisms. Their aim is the destruction of Israel and the expulsion or slaughter of all Jews. For a start...

Supporting them is a criminal offence in a number of countries for a very good reason.

So do say if that is what you support so that everything is crystal clear.

The Likud party supports the expulsion and killing of all Palestinians. We should make supporting them illegal next.

Not that I like the Likud party, but no, it doesn't.

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