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Sigh. What is old is new again. It was a terrible idea back then too...

https://jakarta.apache.org/ecs/

The same developers that were raised and soaked in Java enterprise development are now Go developers. Expect more of this especially as Go enters the Enterprise sphere.

I really don't think so in this case.

"Software engineer who loves building fancy and unuseful things for the sake of freestyle."

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It's the exact opposite. We former J2EE developers found Go to be a safe haven. I don't know where this is coming from.

I figure that Go is to C what Java was to C++. Between that and Go's background as a big company tool designed for big company work, the tendency towards Javafication should come as no surprise.

It's how react works, though, and react is absolutely dominant... do you think that's despite the "terrible idea"?

I agree they are technically the same, but JSX is miles ahead.

Most HTML is valid JSX, minimizing the mental overhead. JSX has great tooling, and TSX has great type safety.

Just need to point out that "Most HTML is valid JSX" doesn't really sound true to me. Eg, show me a non-trivial HTML web page that doesn't have any `class="..."` attributes (I've managed to avoid doing much React/JSX for the last few years, but I seem to remember that you had to use `className` because `class` is a reserved word in JS).

You are right. I still maintain that JSX<=>HTML is much easier to think about than Go<=>HTML.

No, it doesn’t work like that.

Everybody wants to make an app.

But nobody wants to make An App.

This shouldn’t be news. There is JSX which is like this but with a special syntax, and there’s Swift and Flutter which look similar.

I created ECS... checks notes, 24 years ago.

https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/jakarta/ecs/branches/ecs/

What I mean is that what’s old has been new again for at least 9 years (React), but it’s also been looking quite similar for at least 3 years (SwiftUI and Flutter).

The biggest difference being in React, the render cycle is a synchronous, blocking function call, but attempting to access any remote data is purely asynchronous.

There's no way to repeat the horror of calling MySQL from a PHP template or whatever you might be able to do here.

It's still possible to write bad code, of course, but the old justification don't quite apply to react like they might here, or elsewhere.

JSX specifically is about the "special" syntax (`<div>hello</div>`), without the syntax it's just React (`React.createElement('div', null, 'hello')`)

Jakarta and go-app.dev seems to be similar to React, but in no way similar to JSX.

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