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I'm surprised people still actively use it and it seems on par with nginx, at least according to https://www.netcraft.com/blog/january-2023-web-server-survey...

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Why surprised? It's rock solid, stable, fast, and does pretty much everything you need, and nothing is hidden behind premium tiers, unlike nginx where they leave bugs and awful behaviour in the open source version that aren't in the premium ones (e.g. nginx used to only resolve hostname entries on start-up, https://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,215830,215832#msg-215832, so if you used a hostname in proxy_pass, and the DNS changed, oops sorry. Actual honouring of DNS TTLs used to be a premium only feature)

I love apache as much as anyone, cut my teeth with it and still work with it plenty.

It doesn’t strike me as odd to question its fit for people who have more experience with containers. If there’s a reverse proxy in the front, one may just need business logic in the back.

>If there’s a reverse proxy in the front, one may just need business logic in the back.

I'm trying to imagine what that haircut would look like

Walk into your nearest Hot Topic.

Full disclosure: I haven't cut my hair in awhile. It may be influencing my architecture decisions at this point.

I am actively trying to remove apache from a large chunk of projects mainly because at this point it is being used as a poor reverse proxy and not a web server which is its core competency.

Actually, its reverse proxy implementation is quite capable and performant.

I run all my microservices and web sites in containers behind Apache. It's not required to use any specific reverse proxy, nginx is Russian made, like Jetbrains' products so Google pushes them and that's why under-educated milenials assume nginx is the only reverse proxy on Earth.

Why do you believe Google "pushes" Russian software? That seems odd.

I guess referring to conspiracy theories is one way of evaluating software.

I'm surprised you're surprised. It's a good web server.

I'm surprised HN hasn't added a feature where if you start a comment with "I'm surprised" it asks you to tick a box to confirm that you're really sure you're contributing to the discussion.

Usually when I’m surprised about something, I realize that I am uninformed or out of touch.

I am strongly in favor of this. I would also like HN to implement a warning that your comment may be extremely uninteresting if it starts out with, "Unfortunately..." or, "Can we all just agree that..."

Also some of the snide comments beginning with “lol” and “I didn’t ask you”.

I've found the experience when people are explicitly requested to never do this (feign surprise) to be excellent; for example, Recurse Center: https://www.recurse.com/manual#sub-sec-social-rules

It's still in most distros default repos, unlike things like caddy, and also supports features like mod_ldap out of the box without enterprise, like nginx. If you just need a simple web server, potentially with some auth even for static files its a no brainier default for internal projects.

I wonder what "other" is and how it suddenly shot up while Apache was suddenly going down.

I agree after all Node.js is Bad Ass Rockstar Tech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzkRVzciAZg&t=1s

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