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Nice little interview that touches on a number of the magical parts of the scene and the many elements and major sites. This guy only started in 1997? All good, but feel like that's just a bit 'after' the golden, significant era. There was definitely a change as PC/windows development happened ...right around then I'd say. But maybe that's just my take on it. Feel like references to some classic demos should be late 80s/early 90s for the sheer impact and that it was a much much more active scene then. Future Crew "Second Reality" forever. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw17c70uJes

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I was part of the PC demoscene in that era (1997-2002) and it definitely was a super productive and exciting time. The transition to Windows wasn't necessarily a big deal, but the impact of 3d acceleration definitely was.

In that period 3d accelerators were basically capable of running Quake and not much else. Traditional demo effects that relied on reading the backbuffer (even to just do some basic postprocessing) were either unavailable or had to have bespoke implementations per card. There were no shaders to speak of, and so on.

For me that really killed demoscene innovation for a while, and a lot of demos basically consisted of a bunch of alpha-blended layers for a while.

Nowadays, though, I'd say the scene is probably doing pretty well even though it's arguably even more niche than it used to be. Oh well.

> and a lot of demos basically consisted of a bunch of alpha-blended layers for a while

Ahh the legendary glBlendFunc(GL_ONE, GL_ONE) era. The most underrated of demoscene styles!

Te white in white paint era

Same here. I came in on the back end of having to write your own engine from scratch (not just 3D, but general graphics.) MOV AX, 13h; INT 10h will forever be burned into my memory.

The transition was definitely odd. What brought it around for me was when fr-08 was released and the broader scene realized what _could_ be done with procedural generation and whatnot.

I feel like Second Reality was the swansong of the golden age of the demoscene.

If you've never seen the Making Of video that was released a while back, someone has been kind enough to add English subs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S-2zGkr7vw

Second Reality is the single most amazing piece of art for me. Nothing else holds as much emotion as that demo. To see behind the curtain is like, I imagine, for someone else to watch Van Gogh actually painting.

It's funny, that link was grey before I clicked on it. If you can find a copy, you might like to pick up MindCandy (http://www.mindcandydvd.com/), but of course they can all be found on YouTube these days.

"Unreal ][ Main theme" is still on my main playlist on my phone, and I've yet to go through the thousands of .XM files I just grabbed off some FTP site back in the day. The MOD community is a related rabbit hole one could get lost in . . .

Elevated came out in 2009: https://youtu.be/jB0vBmiTr6o?si=Y9heVUzK1R1m9B0s

4 kilobytes!

There are a handful of things I can point to that likely inspired my career in computers... Second Reality was one of them. (Probably Leisure Suit Larry behind that. :)

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