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Sometime around 2010, after I had been burned by the nth webFoo that excited me as The Solution (tm) went under, I got very serious about Emacs and (mode)company, which I had used as just an avaliable text editor on Unix from 1993-1996 and off-and-on on Linux since 1998.

Everytime I start lusting after a sweet young thing I ask: Is it local? Is it future-proof? Is it plaintext? Is it extensible by competent users? The answer is always no to one of them (unless it's basically also a text editor like Vim (shudder)), and the "heat" dissipates, and I "rejoice in the wife of my youth."

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Check out Obsidian if you haven’t already

Logseq is all these things, and open source!

It's been a while since I spun up Logseq—are you able to use it collaboratively?

That's the biggest obstacle for me with these personal knowledge management apps. They're nice to use individually, but when I need to collaborate with someone, there's no way to delegate access—much less granular access.

I recently deployed getoutline.com to my personal kubernetes cluster. It's free to self-host and everything is saved in markdown. It also has collaborative features.

I believe it's intended for documentation. But I use it as my note taking app.

I haven't tried since I don't have anyone I need to use it with, but there's a way to set it to back up and sync using git (since they're all markdown files anyway). It wouldn't be real-time (you couldn't both have a document open at once), and you'd probably have to remember to push your changes.

Syncthing might also work in a rather hacky way, but would probably also run into real-time collisions.

Logseq is definitely worth a try just to run the operations through your fingers, and it's amazing for some people - but after roughly a year and a half, I'm about at the point of picking up the two or three things I really like about logseq and porting them back to emacs and plain-ish markdown. (For most people that would just be "use org-mode" but I've bounced off of it a couple of times already and only want a few simple features...)

Logseq almost got me, especially because it allows org-mode markup and is influenced by TiddlyWiki, which I once used heavily.

However the interface (like Roam) is too limiting. I am used to split frames of multiple buffers with others a C-x b away, and treemacs and mu4e and Olivetti mode, and eshell, and dired, and...

This is how I feel. I will leave emacs from time to time to try this, that, or the other. But I come back and emacs is there awaiting.

I recently learned to love the unadorned emacs (no eVIl mode), and I can't believe I spun my gears in modal land for so long.

If you limit yourself to the plaintext horses, you'll miss flying cars

Obsidian comes to mind

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