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Science is bringing historic Apple varieties back to life

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51 pointssohkamyung29 comments

Why did 'Apple' had to be capitalized in the title in this case? It's not in German and it's about the fruit, not the computer company.

Thanks to that I was expecting something about Appel retro Computers.

same here!

Probably the user submitted it on a Mac that auto "corrected" the capitalization

As it should be, they came first. Hope they sue the fruit for infringing the trademark of the old famous computer company.

They already do

"Apple growers in Switzerland fighting Apple Inc. in court"

https://www.newser.com/story/336785/swiss-apple-growers-not-...

You have to ask Dang. I submitted the story with "apple" and HN capitalized it. I left it like that to see the comments about capitalization. :-)

P.S. I submitted it on a Win 11 machine running Firefox.

With a physical keyboard and no autocomplete, I guess ;-)

Mechanical keyboard. This is the way.

Reminds me of gofmt insisting "Id" should always be "ID" and in the process totally dunking on Freud

It doesn't have a system to correct the 'auto correction' system?

They’re remaking the newton AND the IIc. With science!

Hopefully they'll bring back the ones with a replaceable battery and upgradeable storage and ram.

Because HN applies various adjustments to submitted post titles - without notifying the poster. A more honest approach would be to have a two-phase submission process, where the submittee is allowed to fix any mistakes made by the algo.

FYI, you can fix poor automatic changes by choosing “Edit” after submission.

FYI, that is not how humans work.

I'm a human, and that's how it worked. I was unsatisfied with a poor automatic change, clicked "Edit" because I'm stubborn that way, saw that it worked, and then shared the solution so that other contributors could do the same.

My apologies for any offense.

It's great that you're both smart and stubborn!

Here are some UX basics in case you really want understand the topic:

https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ux-basics-study-guide/

When Doctor Hogg went to Hereford

Through ever-bigger displays, Victorian England studied its apples.

https://applesandpeople.org.uk/stories/hereford/

Apples originated in Kazakhstan, there are supposed to be forests of Apple trees there, although I think they're now in fairly poor health.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-last-wild-apple-fore...

Never heard of the bloody ploughman, but its neat. from wiki: "The story is that a gamekeeper shot dead a ploughman caught stealing apples from the Megginch Estate. When his body was returned to his wife, she found stolen apples in his pockets and threw them onto a rubbish heap. One of the resulting seedlings bore apples of a deep, blood red. This tree gave rise to the cultivar that was named after the unfortunate ploughman."

Oh, man. I'd love to get a new 4th gen iPod.

I know you're just joking, but I would love if Apple actually did something like that as a small run thing. I'd even accept some horrible DRM and lock down. Let me sync like 1000 songs or something onto it from Apple Music. It's stupid but I would buy that purely because it'd make me smile using it.

This guy chases down lost apples on old farmsteads:

https://www.carolinacountry.com/departments/departments/feat...

https://applesearch.org/

Odd choice to capitalize "Apple" in the title there. I thought they were resurrecting Newtons or Lisas or something.

clickbait?

That was done by HN's autocorrect, not the author, see the other thread about this.

Inside the first hour(?) the user can correct the title again by using edit.

They decided not to, see again the other thread.

When I was a child, my mother would get cases of Cox's Orange Pippin freighted over from an orchard region. I think late summer/fall. Far and away the best dessert (eating) apple I've tasted, and the texture was great too.

But they were susceptible to sunburn and leaf marks, they bruised easily (needed careful handling) and the skin wrinkled quickly in retail temperatures and atmospheres. When supermarkets took off, varieties like that died. It's going to be hard to bring any of them back in any meaningful sense.

I guess I just don’t see the excitement here. Drop a seed in the ground get a new variety. Not sure the purpose of trying to preserve every apple varietal, if they were good, they’d of been grafted and promoted. All modern apple orchards are clones/grafts these days.

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