AI pioneers LeCun, Bengio clash in intense online AI safety, governance debate
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Bengio argued for the importance of prudence, stating that we still do not understand how to design safe, powerful AI systems, and highlighted the need for major investment in AI safety and governance. He also questioned the wisdom of open-sourcing powerful AI systems, likening it to freely distributing dangerous weapons.
LeCun . . . countered Bengio’s claims about investment in AI safety, asserting that there is a significant amount of funding being poured into making AI systems safe and reliable. LeCun also disagreed with the comparison of AI systems to weapons, stating AI is designed to enhance human intelligence, not to cause harm.
When the prophet says jump you better ask how high. No wonder the kids these days be saying "off yourself like a radiologist", they are coming of age in this time the historians call "The LeCun havoc".
The American Medical Association is a cartel that purposefully limits the supply of medical providers in order to drive up prices, and they're very successful at it. The de facto rationing of medical care caused by high prices kills people who can't afford care.
There's blood on hands, but it's not on the hands of the people who are increasing access to medical treatment.
Your comment sounds vengeful to the very people you'd turn to if you were facing a medical crisis. I understand the point though, just not sure why people have to make these sweeping statements whenever someone points out that the job losses from AI might be very very rough.
Fwiw, I've heard you guys aren't getting replaced by this stuff anyway.
Your health depends on you having money to buy food.
The purpose of the economy is to fairly allocate resources to people. Labor is a resource. If we suddenly have no scarcity of labor, that should mean everyone is wealthier than before. If the economy is crushed by suddenly having a limitless supply of a resource, it means the economy isn't able to allocate resources fairly, which is a problem with the economy, not the resource.
I'm an optimist and I think people can make the economy adapt to the problem of suddenly being richer than it was previously.
We're not talking about the wider economy here, we're talking about radiology in particular.
No, it's vengeful to the cartel that restricts the number of doctors that are allowed to exist[1]. Now there aren't enough radiologists[2]. If AI can solve this problem and get everyone the needed care, I'm all for it. The end that society is pursuing is a healthy population that isn't crippled by medical costs. If you're able to earn a living solving that problem, wonderful. If you're not, I'm sorry, but the medical field shouldn't primarily be a welfare system that incidentally provides health care.
[1] https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/03/15/ama-scope...
[2] https://www.acr.org/Practice-Management-Quality-Informatics/...
I’d say most jobs are some type of welfare.
The AMA doesn't do anything so gauche as directly controlling things, but it is absolutely the power behind the throne.
> Lawmakers received cover from the American Medical Association (AMA), the Association of American Medical Colleges, and other major stakeholders in American medicine who endorsed caps on funding for residents and other graduate medical education programs. In March 1997, months before the Balanced Budget Act was enacted, the AMA even suggested reducing the number of US residency positions by approximately 25% from 25,000 to fewer than 19,000.
[1] https://qz.com/1676207/the-us-is-on-the-verge-of-a-devastati...