Worst Examples of Meta's Dystopian AI Influencers
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It seems like every kind of company in leadership position cannot help but constantly invest in the most deeply pessimistic future visions of humanity consisting of nonsensical but very low cost babbling celebrity talking heads.
What happened to Asmovian visions of the future, or Roddenbury inspired visions of cooperative societies?
Meta is one of the worst offenders in this sense.
Their products invoke the fat, clueless floating people who have outsourced all of their responsibilities to an incompetent crew and merciless AI on a ship, constantly entertained as they float through an endless consumptive universe just like the movie WALLe. Like it seems like they watched that movie and said, “welp i guess we found our corporate direction.”
It’s gross and I really am starting to despise the pathetic visions of these deeply controlled and pessimistic corporate visions of the future.
I didn’t build a career in technology so we could build a bunch of worthless crap that makes society worse. What is this shit?
yeah i'm with the luddites on this one, let the dead rest. talking to a simulation of your ancestors for $19.99/month after 30 free trial, get out of town.
A version of this I enjoyed? Visiting the living museum at plymouth, massachusets. A friend of mine got to meet and have her photo taken with an actor portraying her 7x-great-grandfather that came over on the mayflower. It was sweet for him to stay in character while they chatted about their different lives. It was an interaction between humans.
All that facebook wants to do for its mission of connecting the world is take up marketshare of time we could be using to interact with each other, and interact with their softwate instead. its gross.
That’s the “digital fetishization” I’m talking about — and “we” as people are not giant tech companies pushing a dystopian vision of interaction on others. That vision comes from the big tech companies, a kind of top down commandment of societal direction accompanied by impossible to ignore salaries that still manages to instill uneasiness in those who build inside of the system. Except, for those who won’t see it for what it is. “Give it a chance, it’ll help the disabled.” “If you want a better future, you’ll have to accept this worthless phase as we step towards it.”
It’s why I call it a fetish — people regurgitate the same mass media points presented in articles to defend the system of mass media even while their whole worldview is usurped by that media.
Profilism at its finest.
The issue is that tech is being used to insert an interface in every aspect of our lives. This creates an approximation of life but within the control of vapid and sometimes sinister overlord companies who definitely do not appear to be worried about the resulting mental health and societal consequences.
Life is not a proxy, and it’s not worth sacrificing our connection so that we can live in a pessimistic vision of society that forces a monetized corporation as a proxy for every sense we have and every connection we make.
I’m no saying it’s all bad or something banal. I’m just saying these companies seem to be architects of deeply pessimistic visions of the future and exploitationist in their utopian futurism.
To your point the idea of resurrecting the dead is automatically embraced by this vision. And it’s amazing technically and could be deeply interesting. But it’s not necessarily good, or as good as genuine human interaction, or if you really think about it — our grief — to which it by nature replaces and will not leave alone or to be natural.
Is this good? Is this progress? Can’t we harness the machines and cash of these gigantic companies to explore use cases for more positive directions than constant entertainment, emotional avoidance, or procuring a proxy for social interactions?
I think I am also a Luddite. A Luddite with a cell phone and a laptop and a schedule for digital transformation that I have to keep.
Sounds egotistical.
> have an AI that is far more realistic then anything today that someone interacts with daily for any number of things
How is this good?
Re: more realistic AI, I don't know if "good" is the word, fun, easier to chat with? I'd love to have a smarter Alexa-like assistant who I can pop up on a screen or jump into where I am and have a chat with, have her pull up information for me, feel like she's really there working with me or helping out around the house. People love the human side of AIs so it's not just a cold interaction, it was always common for people to say "thank you" to alexa and write in saying they thought it was really nice when she would respond for example. I know I personally like that too. Even for video games it would be awesome to have very realistic NPCs you can interact with, keep embodied in the game.
The global elite decided in the 90s that History had ended, and the Liberal Democracies of the West won through the domination of their perfect ideology. The eternal status quo had been reached. "Having a vision" means "rocking the boat", which is forbidden in a time of certain prosperity (for the elite, at least).
The treadmill of mediocre entertainment-oriented Grand Corporate Product Challenge is some combination of "wealthy visionaries are on vacation due to wealth" and "grifter consultants have quick ways to make a buck and are always availble" .. while "stock price uber alles"
it is undefensible in 2023 to say "the elite decided this" in any meaningful way unless the definition of "the elite" is expanded to a ridiculous degree, and even then .. no, they dont agree.. they bicker and push each other off the telephone post like seagulls do..
The elite verifiably did get behind "the end of history" narrative, and their opinions matter because they have a global megaphone in the form of the mainstream media.
It's not some grand conspiracy of rich people plotting in a dark room. It is the common interest of an extremely influential class.
Same schools, same boards, same vacation spots, same parties, etc. Same ideas about how the world works. The class delineation is quite clear. Yes, there is a lot of variation and rising "counter-elites", but why exactly should we ignore the elephant in the room?
A giant driver for the massive deconstruction of class privelage was exactly an unrelenting obsession by bystanders, to claim that any and all adverse results are due to "the elite decided this" .. so -- to be on the Board of any of those companies is generally speaking an end-result of 25 solid years of competitive situations, where some people "win" .. the Board directors are MORE exploitive and aggressive precisely because they will be replaced with others that will do it. I utterly disagree that there is some insider track in the USA that results from where you went to kindergarten or who you spend vacations with..
Meta wants to attract kids and new users. We've always had vapid, attractive stars. There's no grand conspiracy for anything, except for packing the US court system with conservative judges, that's out in the open.
https://www.vox.com/technology/2023/7/18/23798164/gizmodo-ai...
The reality is that our oligarchs have used technology to follow human dreams, so humans can keep working.
AI's autonomously impersonating humans should be illegal. No disclaimer. It should be against the law. Full stop.
This is so pessimistic. You can look to a million places to see how tech and automation improves every day.
I don't follow why you'd want AI's emulating humans to be illegal. If you approve your likeness being emulated, go for it. Obviously unapproved copying/deepfakes are bad but that's not this. I'd love to have my own digital clone.
We don't need AI influencers. We don't need AI's impersonating humans in creative fields. Let's focus on eliminating human suffering with automation before we go eliminating human recreation, enjoyment, or pleasure.
You seriously don't see what is dystopian about a machine designed to post fake images of pizza it can't even eat on Facebook while our kids go to work for $13/hr / 60hrs per week?
No I don't see anything dystopian about generating images of pizza, and I don't believe there's any increase in sufereing caused by it, maybe even a decrease since someone would've spent time working on an uninteresting task and throwing away food to create some perfect pizza photo for advertising (like what happens with most food photos today), instead they just let a model siumulate one and went on with their day.
You think the dystopian part is the picture of the pizza???
No my friend. The dystopian part is that someone with an unnecessarily unreasonable amount of money paid hundreds of people hundreds of thousands of dollars to design a machine that can replace the pizza influencer who makes $200k/year instead of making a machine to replace the pizza chef making $32k/year.
The world needs pizza making robots. Not pizza influencer robots. That's a perfect job for a human to spend enjoying his life. Instead the robot is enjoying "life" and the human gets to experience another day of poverty.
That's almost like making a pizza tasting robot and letting the chef keep working for no reason.
Fascinating! Where do you define the cuttoff? I can make (admittedly thin) arguments for a LOT of things impersonating humans...
* Robot answering services
* Autonomous cars
* Bots that correct people's grammar on Twitter
* Atlas from Boston Dynamics
I would define "Impersonating Humans" in this context to mean manipulating a physical or virtual environment that is typically utilized by humans for the sake of communication, collaboration, information, or entertainment where the impersonator is taking actions on their own behalf, or automatically on behalf of another entity.
I think we can remove autonomous vehicles given your definition, as they do not try to be audibly or visually human.
I'm still unconvinced about the rest...
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/12/20/who-tom-brady-f...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Guerrero_(alternative_med...
Zuckerberg: No! Pump their brains full of shit! More shit!
Shipping an LLM-driven chatbot as a revolutionary therapy tool would be even more dystopian than this.
Shitty AI healthcare for poor people.
Real doctors for rich people.
The entire US healthcare system is well designed to direct different populations to receiving different levels of healthcare services. You don't even get the same level within Medicare!
So much potential in productivity and other spaces.