American Big Tech Has Enslaved Us [video]
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The EU really needs to drop their victim mindset about these American software companies and critically examine why their insistence on the grant-model for innovation has resulted in failure after failure in the software space. They’ll try to start a “Silicon X” where literally the only thing in common with Silicon Valley is they try to collocate the jobs they’re creating, which is like the easiest factor to replicate as it will mostly happen naturally if they address the actual other factors like attracting venture capital, letting employees take home a lot of money and switch jobs freely, letting companies hire and fire more freely, actually valuing the software work instead of glorifying nontechnical pencil pushers like project managers…
He says repeatedly that "when everything has to go through" Google, Apple, Facebook, etc., but he never uses the word "intermediary". Were feudal lords intermediaries. In the early days of the internet I recall there was talk of "disintermediation" that would be enabled through the growth of the network and yet today it feels as though the internet itself has become the source of excessive, toxic intermediation. Toxic for one because it comes with absurd levels of surveillance and data collection.
The author sounds like he would be a fun professor to have as a student.
Today the factory has been replaced by the mega-corporation, and the "workers" are now smaller businesses and private entrepreneurs or individual producers. Their job is now skilled and personal, but the offer is so vast that each of them is fungible anyway. The platform, which acts as a gateway, has no obligations towards them and can replace them at any time (and therefore has complete power over them).
Historically this situation has been solved by imposing limits to the freedom of factory owners and allowing workers to unionize, to restore a balance of power between the capitalists and the masses of workers. This has not been done yet with the new internet economy.
For Uber, airports were about the only ones able to apply any real pressure.
Those factories were owned by companies. I don't think things have really changed.
> Historically this situation has been solved by imposing limits to the freedom of factory owners and allowing workers to unionize, to restore a balance of power between the capitalists and the masses of workers. This has not been done yet with the new internet economy.
In more recent history, the trend has been to reduce those limits, and generally remove whatever leverage labour has. Saying "it has not been done yet" seriously understates it.
Well aside from the fact that most people don't own crypto....
Aren't feudal lords intermediaries, empowered by the king? kings had the power to replace one feudal lord with another.
the difference between a "fair and just tax levied by the local lord" and "thugs beating you until you cough up the gold, then giving a cut to their mafia boss" is small. feudalism makes a lot more sense if you think about it as loose groups of warlords and mafia dons stabbing each other and leaning on The Church for clout.
Unlike, say, the NYSE, which owns all the equities that are traded there?
NB. There are all his statements, not mine!
His big non-rant point is that the EU has failed to generate significant "cloud capital". There's no dominant European alternative to Meta/Facebook/Instagram or Google. The main competition seems to be TikTok. Amazon, though, does not dominate the online market for stuff in the EU as it does in the US.[1] Most of the EU competitors to Amazon are single-country, apparently.
[1] https://sifted.eu/articles/amazon-europe-ecommerce-competito...
Please look him up in a bit more detail before dismissing him as a 'minor politician'.
He might ask local entrepreneurs what challenges they face in Greece / EU / Europe. But I guess this is too much work for leftie intellectual.
Weird - so regardless of the Union part of the EU, European companies have not expanded beyond their home countries?
http://go-here.nl/invideo-ai-480%20Techno-Feudalism_%20The%2...
* Janis Varoufakis argues that capitalism has been replaced by a new system he calls "techno-feudalism." This is a result of the rise of "cloud capital" owned by big tech companies like Amazon, Google, Facebook, etc.
* He believes cloud capital has enabled a new form of economic rent extraction, allowing tech lords like Jeff Bezos to collect huge rents from digital platforms that increasingly replace market transactions. This parallels feudal lords extracting rents from their land.
* The massive money printing by central banks after the 2008 crisis provided the funding for this rapid expansion of cloud capital, further entrenching the power of techno-feudal lords.
* Varoufakis sees the rise of figures like Donald Trump as a backlash against this new techno-feudalism from "petit bourgeois" capitalists and workers left behind by deindustrialization.
* However, Europe is now irrelevant compared to the techno-feudal spheres of influence in the US and China, as it has no cloud capital of its own.
(yt-dlp | ffmpeg | whisper-cpp | claude.ai) * The euro has locked countries like Italy and Greece into permanent austerity and decline. Leaving would be painful but may be necessary.
* Covid provided an opportunity for more debt and money distribution to elites. Liberal individualism is dying as big tech shapes desires.
* In summary, Varoufakis argues contemporary capitalism has been replaced by a neo-feudal system ruled by tech oligarchs extracting rents via cloud platforms.
This phenomenon is so massively underappreciated.
Now that interest rates are back to normal I am extremely interested in seeing how much of this phenomenon is permanent (i.e. path-dependent). I just hope that Big Tech hasn't become so important that it is bailout-eligible.
"It isn't until the tide goes out that you see who's been swimming naked" -- various successful investors.
I would love to start a rant here which could expand into an interesting analysis.
It’s partially a chicken-egg problem because they don’t seem to be good at “moving up the value chain” in software either, except in the more developing economies like Poland which get more outsourced international business that allows them upskill. In the developed countries it seems like they are stuck doing in-sourced commodity development of CRUD sites for the local market.
Capitalism was marketed to us all as efficiency and prosperity. And when down on our luck, we were temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
The renaming seems to be an attempt to do a sleight of hand (sleight of word?) so as not to upset all of the people to whom capitalism has been successfully marketed.
Are we all so sensitive that we require misplaced blame to discuss the problems? Are we all so naive that we'll fall for the trick?
Firstly, there is nothing super special about most of these platforms that would make them difficult to reproduce even with a small amount of capital.
Secondly, even with vast sums of capital you can't be assured of successfully pulling users away from an existing platform.
The point of capitalism is that efficiency is created by the flow of money directing the means of production.
Instead with the platforms directing things we see massive gameification of the systems and inefficient direction of production by the platform manipulating things to make the platform more money.
Ultimately the will of the consumer is being misdirected by subterfuge creating inefficient markets which are no longer being directed by capital and not capitalist.
The platforms all reach a point where they can't make more money by simply injecting more funds to be more productive. They can however make more money by actually being worse and extracting more value from their users though.
The trouble (or benefit) of unconstrained capitalism is that as soon as you do anything compelling, a thousand people will jump in to copy you. This makes establishment of an oligopoly highly unlikely.
We see oligopolies in our constrained environment because the artificial constraints (e.g. intellectual property laws) we apply help build 'moats', keeping those thousands away.
He's not wrong but not right either. I'd wager he's about 70% on the right side.
You still and always have the option to not use cloud, even if there ever were no data centers available, you can still pay to be connected to whatever local data exchange for a comparable price to renting a rack, if you didn't know.
But the world is not just computers. You don't need to use cloud services. Example Germany, offline water delivery is still done via phone calls, and the people running those shops don't want it any other way, because they have too many customers and not enough people willing to work for base hourly payments doing physically hard work.
I'm sure more examples can be found.
When it comes to jobs, I'm having a very hard time finding one which doesn't require knowledge about AWS, usually their preferred cloud operator, then comes Azure and lastly GCP, in Germany. GCP usually only if they're completely Google powered.
But he doesn't mean just clouds but also the connected services. The whole deal.
He's not a developer and doesn't know that everything you can do with cloud, you can do without cloud. You don't need serverless, k8s etc. But people get indoctrinated. I was too, 2013 when k8s started being popular, when docker was the great new thing, when Google+ propaganda showcased k8s, I was on board. Then I saw, hey wait a minute. Too complicated for every day use, too expensive for the little guy (me), too time intensive to maintain. That's why it got hyped. To drive business to their cloud.
Yannis and others make the same mistake, they don't value their own but believe someone else can do better than they can, because they actually lack knowledge.
Gaming anecdote, Battlefield 2142. Many servers had the "No fighting commander" rule, because apparently, according to them, "A commander can't fight and command". Well maybe they couldn't, but I could. And I did great and had a lot of fun.
Cloud is similar. There are people who are able and stand on their own and there are people who aren't and need to pay, expensively, for the work of others.
If you can cook you might go to a restaurant occasionally, but most of the time you'll cook yourself. And the meal costs 5€ and not 25€. Of course if you've got it all figured out you might have a lot of money and wouldn't mind inviting a friend and pay 80€ for the meal. Who cares, you make 700€ a day. And that friend will give make you another 200€ per day.
But if you're poor 5€ is a good meal.
Hey it's Sunday so don't take it all too seriously.
Cloud == leased computing services. Not random large tech companies.
Sending empty planes in the air to keep take off slots is so efficient!
…Stop parroting memes of the ossified that fall apart with 10 seconds of discussion.
If the choice is between wealth inequality and market ineffeciencies, I'm going to threaten picking market ineffeciencies simply as bargaining leverage against wealth inequality. Like all go threats, I'd be willing to pull the trigger.
That's a happy ending, but who exactly how do "we" purchase the governments of the world back from the "tech gods" so that they can levy those taxes?
In Halloween terms, vampires have already been invited into our home.
(Possibly with the prospect of these rents increasingly replacing taxes, as traditional territorial hegemonies are losing legitimacy.)
To justify their legitimacy, they’ll need to keep economic growth up (also an inevitability with the rise of AI) and probably also issue some sort of UBI.
Basically expect the future of America to be a sort of modern Holy Roman Empire, with Microsoft in the role of the Hapsburgs.