The 34-year-old airline novice who thinks he's Richard Branson
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I would happily pay extra for better comfort and service. I look forward to flying global someday.
It flew from LCY to JFK with a stop at Shannon in Ireland for quick refuelling and US Immigration preclearance (so you landed in NY like it was a domestic flight). It was an Airbus A318 in a 32 (if I remember correctly) all business class configuration.
Covid killed the flight.
I have money so I pretty much only look at SW for domestic flights. I would only start flying Delta/United/AA if I had so much money I weren’t flying coach or if I lived in a market SW didn’t serve.
With SW I’d be completely comfortable booking a flight 6 months out that I had a 25% chance of actually taking.
I’m trying to actually understand why the major airlines have customers.
I can book my trip, select my seat (none of the trying to check in 23h59m59s998ms ahead, only to find you got A12 anyway and then 42 people had some reason to have priority boarding including the in-flight miracles where someone needs a wheelchair to board early, but walks off on their own), and if there are irregular ops challenges, Delta likely has 2-5 other similar flights in their network.
We fly SWA sometimes for personal travel and I can say “it’s better than Spirit, but I prefer Delta.” (We fly Delta even when it’s our own money, unless SWA has a non-stop and Delta doesn’t.)
Instead, many routes are either cram in tight for cheap, or buy a first/business class with room to lay. Just give me something in the middle, please...
What I'd like to see is an airline with: * Single-class seating * No frequent flyer programme.
First and business class create weird perverse incentives: they'd rather leave seats empty most of the time in the hope they'll get a few business travelers not spending their own money, or people who managed to grind their way to Triple Oganesson status and managed to drag an upgrade out of the system. The rest of the time, it's just an obnoxious reminder that they could be providing a better experience, but you're not paying them enough to get it.
Frequent flyer programmes will never make sense for a large section of passengers. So again, it's just another thing to hassle customers with, either as extra steps in checkout, or a place to say "well, if you spent enough money with us every year, we'd let you skip to the front of a queue."
I think the most flights I've taken in a year was four return trips, to two different destinations, using three different airlines. There's no way I could generate enough points to earn meaningful status or "free" travel in a practical timeframe, and even if I could, it's not going to change the fact that many city pairs have limited service choices. I'm not sure there are enough points you can give me to justify injecting a 50% price premium, flight change and four hour layover into a trip that's three and a half hours if I go direct via $other_airline.
The best I could do is instead intentionally select a rewards credit card programme, and attempt to divert spending to that to attempt to rack up points. If I'm going to use a rewards card, I'll use one that reimburses me in actual money, instead of a corporate scrip subject to surprise devaluation or blackouts. Theoretically if I line everything up just right, I could get 42% back in the form of Air Koryo Fun Points, but only if I use the card on months with no "R" to buy UberEats delivery of pork rinds. By comparison, 1.5-2% of hassle-free American Dollars across any purchases feels like less of a cryptic puzzle made by a DM who spends too much time in Excel, and more of an actual incentive.
Give me 6 inches extra width and legroom. That would be 30% wider, and about 20% longer, for a total of 156% of original total area. It would make everything feel so much nicer that I'd gladly pay 156% of the ticket price, if not more.
I just looked up the long haul I've taken most - Detroit to Tokyo.
Delta economy is $1160. Delta business is $16,983.
First is available via United, for over $24,000.
Adjust for inflation, and baseline tickets are cheaper than they were a decade ago, and significantly cheaper than they were a decade before that. The only reason the difference isn't even more significant is that prices are now at the point that it's nigh-impossible to cut anything further and still have a functional flight.
I wonder how many people do pay for it vs just get it as a status/points upgrade.
Like a sibling commenter, I fly PDX so will usually fly Alaska but Delta is a solid #2.
The thing about the race to the bottom is eventually someone comes along to gobble up all the goodwill that's been squandered.
I hope he pulls it off.
MaxJET failed because they tried to price themselves nearer to a budget airline while offering business-class seating/experience. The low margins this offered forced them to close down when they couldn't adjust for fuel price fluctuations and salary increases. A closer analogy, but still not quite there.
La Compagnie still exists and operates their premium Newark<->Paris line.
Which seems to be exact playbook that Global is trying out. Quoting TFA:
Global Airlines will be better than everybody else because they won’t skimp on the things that make flying fun — their A380s will have “communal areas”, first-class passengers will be chauffeured direct to the airport from their homes, they already have a partnership with Laurent-Perrier champagne — but their tickets won’t cost much more than those of their competitors.
Anyway, flying New York to London too… that’s like flying New York to Vienna.
That being said, based on what I’ve gathered, he might be starting the airlines with wet leased airplanes from HiFly[1]. So, my guess is this starts as a custom livery, and custom services.
That being said, this seems weird on the “sniff test” basis, and seems very personality driven — which we’ve seen be successful before (wework, Tesla, Apple, FTX, Virgin Group). I think if they’re able to pivot from a reality distortion field to a viable business, this will be wonderful!
[1]: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/global-airlines-to-...
HiFly seems to be refurbishing and then servicing them.