That would be the best scenario
I don’t even want to begin to think about how much power is needed to achieve that while minimizing noise etc.
A few years down the road, when other cities are considering their options, someone will inevitably point to Colorado Springs. Comcast really, really, wants that data point to be a bad one.
Around the same time the FTC was considering (and did) raise the speed definition of broadband and they YouTube had a big push to make 1080p streaming smooth and accessible, and they were being held back by a lot of slow last mile ISPs.
Then everybody went mobile. So, now Google isn't quite as fussed about fibre.
Even if they were they couldn't get into a whole lot of markets. It sort of piggy backs off of municipal fiber which is a nonstarter in some places due to costs or it straight up being illegal.
Google also has Google Fi which is a mobile provider.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/googl...
1) Google didn't want to be a service provider. ("Customer service? What's that??") It only needed to feign the threat to get the other real ISPs to pick up the speed. They were only committed enough to acheive that broader goal.
2) "Failure" is good for Google. It's a cover for where they are dominant. Shuttering Fiber isn't a failure. It's a win.
It’s a bug in Google’s promo driven culture. You don’t get promoted at Google by being good at your job, you have to show “impact”. That’s much easier to do by being on a new initiative. You don’t do that by improving and maintaining existing projects.
Amazon has the same “impact” driven promo culture. I haven’t worked at Google. But I did work at Amazon. From what I read about Google, it’s the same Hunger Games mentality.
Cookie-cutter approvals and proposals, just enough to get the local monopolies to get off their backsides...
See https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/fact-shee... for a quick read summary of the issues.
See https://broadbandnow.com/report/municipal-broadband-roadbloc... for some of the legal chicanery that incumbent monipoly ISPs have put in place.
See https://www.wired.com/2013/07/we-need-to-stop-focusing-on-ju... for other local government struggles.
See https://www.vice.com/en/article/ywkn4b/study-throwing-taxpay... for some history on how these monopoly ISPs rob taxpayers without actually delivering.
The fact that even today in Silicon Valley, the fastest internet I can get at home is through Comcast with a 45mbps upload cap (1200mbps down) is a disgusting failure of every level of government to actually do right by consumers instead of just stuffing our tax dollars into the back pockets of giant companies while our infrastructure rots, and I mean that quite literally looking at the telephone poles down our streets here that still carry the coax used to deliver internet service. There’s no fiber in our suburban neighborhood because many of the residents bought their houses in the 60s and 70s, pay 1/20th or less of the property taxes that new home buyers do because of CA Prop 13 (which is also a big reason California cities always have budget issues — schools here that are surrounded by >$1m houses for miles go underfunded because of Prop 13), and aren’t willing to pay a dime more for anything like internet service because they’re already struggling to make ends meet. They’ve already been priced out of the neighborhood long ago, but we continue to pretend that giving them a $20k/yr tax break on their property tax is making the world better by letting them continue to be in poverty while living in a million-dollar+ property. I feel much less sorry for the wealthy folks who own many Prop 13 tax-advantaged properties here and rent them out at $8k/month in pure profit. I feel the least sorry for large companies like Disney that get CA Prop 13 benefits, but even stuff like 2020 CA Prop 15 fails at the ballots because everyone pearl clutches their sweet sweet tax break, even when we just try to limit it for large companies, because they think they’ll come for them next (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California_Proposition_15 and https://calmatters.org/commentary/2020/08/how-prop-13-gave-c... )
I see our infrastructure problems as just another example of the older generations voting only out of self-interest with no desire to build a better society for their children, NIMBYism, and the ever-reliable culture of profits over people at every level of government. Apply these over decades and you get what we have in this country today. I highly doubt we’re ever going to comprehensively fix all of our infrastructure issues in America.
We won't and we don't want to. People think that we're just a "few years out" from being able to fix things. We don't want to fix things. We love our country this way. This is what we vote for. This is what we pay for. This is us. We love being covered in the fetid scum at the bottom of a dumpster. It gets us off.
I choose my Comcast tier based on the upload speed, because that's the real bottleneck in the system. Making DOCSIS (almost) symmetric is huge.
I was on a ~200 Mbps connection for a while and to be honest, a 1 GB file takes less than a minute, which is crazy fast.
I get that things will change in the future, but right now, I'd say 98% of the population would be happy with a 100 Mbps connection.
Not really, I have access to fast internet and feel like I do just fine at 1/10th the speed.
But you see, 100Mbps Internet connection dont often give you 100Mbps connection all the time, if gives you a share of total connection, whether that is building, floor, flat, etc that guarantees under X condition you get 100Mbps. So in reality you really want this number to be at least 10X because the system was designed to be oversubscribed. ( And it is not the fault of any body, the tech was designed as such. ) And it is especially true for DOCSIS 4.0.
And in the case of Network planning, it will actually be better if they could speed up your 1% need so you leave more time and space for others. ( Of course some people abuse the network but that is a different story )
“Now you can hit your bandwidth cap in half the time!”
— Comcast
Then soon your site will be the slowest one around and you’d want to catch up.
Even with symmetrical 1Gbos and pushing to AWS, the VPN was slowing me down.
Luckily, we started implementing zero trust and not needing a VPN. But I would still just launch a Cloud9 instance and do everything on it for much faster speeds
And it did help that I worked for the only company that never has to worry about or pay AWS a huge AWS bill no matter how much we used it…
I think the house with many people case is overwhelmingly more common than the single networking enthusiast gamer/pirate.
(I have gigabit at home but probably wouldn't get 2 gigabit)
First, who doesn’t have SSDs in computers these days? Also, spinning rust drives haven’t been frozen in time since SSDs became mainstream. Modern 3.5” HDDs can hit >2000mbps, which is 250 MB/s. See eg https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/seagate-firecuda-8tb-hd...
> expensive networking hardware
Many newer consumer-grade home routers have 2.5G ports, eg GL.iNet GL-MT3000 which is $100 right now https://a.co/d/bowJMRn
The important number here is not 2000mbps aka 250MBps. The important number is the current upload speed for the highest Comcast DOCSIS 3.1 “1200mbps” plan which is 45mbps aka 5.625 MB/s. To put that into perspective time-wise in networking terms, 802.11G was out on 2003 — 20 years ago — and that was rated at 54mbps. In other words, current Comcast aka XFINITY upload speeds could be saturated by wifi technology that is old enough to vote.
This only has one 2.5GB port so it's only suitable for the many-users case, not the downloading-stuff-fast-alone case.
A t-1 used to be enough for 25 people officially.
``` Once your courtesy month has been used, the next time you exceed 1.2 TB in a month (and any subsequent times it's exceeded in a month), you'll be notified by email and text message that you’ve exceeded your data usage plan amount. A block of 50GB will be added to your account, and a $10 charge will be applied to your bill automatically.
You'll be charged $10 each time we provide you with an additional block of 50GB of data, with a limit of $100 per month.```
https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/data-usage-exceed-u...
The upload side would take 2 days, 11 hours, and 15 and a half minutes to upload 1.2TB. They do this to prevent torrenting and any meaningful file sharing, because “ NBCUniversal - Comcast Corporation - Xfinity” has an obvious incentive to protect their profits on the media side. DOCSIS channels are the commonly-cited technical reason. You can read more about those limits here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS#Throughput but the throughput caps could easily be 100mbps or 200mbps upload at my location with my current DOCSIS3.1 stuff.
Symmetrical 2gbps would be a dream, especially with unlimited data, but more than anything I’d love for these crooks to have some actual competition.
Cincinnati Bell was early to roll out DSL too. Went to college here in the late 90s and had a mind blowing 768kbps. I could watch RealVideo at 640x480!
Anywhere developed between 1980 to 2005 with underground utilities or anywhere with dense apartment buildings like NYC have effectively zero fiber.
I do agree they're a pain to clean/paint, but I'm saying there are still good use-cases for a textured ceiling.
The only alternative is to get something wireless, either a microwave antenna service or a cell-based hotspot
It doesn’t seem any companies are trying to compete or even improve their services
Spectrum goes down at least 3 times a month, sometimes for hours on end
I can get cable with fast downloads and 11Mbps uploads, or if I remember right the phone line option was 50Mbps each way.
But millimeter wave wireless is available from Google in Seattle