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Things I wish FreeBSD would change:

- turning all services (except ssh) off, by default. OpenBSD does this.

- move all non-core things out of the base, like sendmail (now DMA, what a nice import from DFly btw)

- the base should only have one way to do things (don’t have 3 different firewalls in base like today)

- better defaults, https://vez.mrsk.me/freebsd-defaults.html

- something like io-uring, (async-sendfile is similar but that’s only for sendfile)

Note: I really love FreeBSD. So don’t take my comments as hate.

Changing default or moving thing to port can breaks upgrades.

I hope, if they do that, would plan carefully before pushing.

Wouldn’t you do this for new installs only.

> FreeBSD 15.0 is not expected to include support for 32-bit platforms. However, 64-bit systems will still be able to run older 32-bit binaries.

> ...

> With the current support schedule, stable/14 will be reach End of Life (EOL) 5 years after the release of FreeBSD 14.0-RELEASE. The EOL of stable/14 would mark the end of support for 32-bit platforms including source releases, pre-built packages, and support for building applications from ports. Given an estimated release date of October 2023 for 14.0-RELEASE, support for 32-bit platforms would end in October 2028.

Still quite a bit of a long tail, but likely time to do it, if not overdue. I think the last time I had a 32-bit laptop was a Thinkpad r60 which I was able to upgrade to a 64-bit CPU...that laptop was from 2006.

64 bit Intel appeared with the Core 2 Duo mid-2006.

Yes the R60 supports adding a Core 2 Duo via the socketed chip. https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:R60

It would be more interesting to know when they stopped shipping processors that were 32-bit only.

Some sort of Atom chip would be my guess.

Either atom (early 2010s), or quark (late 2010s) I think. My point is that those were actually sold relativity recently. Not common, not that recent, but plausibly still worth creating about today. (Though IMO possibly fine for 2028)

Changelog: https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/relnotes/

I have an old beaglebone black that I like to use with FreeBSD. Last time I tried, I was unable to make it book with the armv7 generic version.

Has anybody any successful experience running FreeBSD on the beaglebone?

I didn't have any problems installing it, though it was not very zippy in installation. What part failed for you?

It didn't even boot. However, I did a bit of research and I probably confused the proc type. Under Linux it claims to be:

model name : ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)

Which is a 32 bit processor. If I go to the download page: https://download.freebsd.org/releases/arm/armv7/ISO-IMAGES/1...

That made be believed it is for my processor, but no, that's a 64 bit version.

I guess I just need to find a 32 bit version image.

Huh, I’m not really tracking UNIX releases anymore but I thought that 14.0 has been out for a while. My pfSense router has been claiming to run on 14.0 since may 2023:

> 23.05.1-RELEASE (amd64)

> built on Wed Jun 28 03:57:27 UTC 2023

> FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT

Current is different than an actual release:

https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#cur...

I thought that CURRENT takes place after a GA release. Thanks! TIL

Besides current not being release, the release version of 14 was delayed a few months for a refactor of openssl. Originally it was planned for June iirc.

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