For example Im using a device which is 1/4th the price of cheapest first hand pixel that I can get
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They also have a pool of accounts you can use by clicking “anonymous”. They do get banned frequently, and you have to re-login once in a while (for me it's almost every time I want to download something new again), but it is definitely usable.
Maybe they can add some web scraping thing to sidestep this issue completely?
I already run LineageOS, but with Play services. I would like to be able to ditch Play services, but still need the Play store for things like my banking app, and an app to log in to government services.
I'd say it's a toss up whether specific apps will definitely work. But if they don't I'd recommending segmenting between different physical devices, and making the one that lives in your pocket as secure as possible. It's likely that you don't need to run banking and government apps on the same device that's privy to your movement.
And banking / government apps tend to work in Europe (at least the ones I have tried). Notable exceptions for me are Revolut (shame!) and McDonalds (who knew microG is the healthier option haha). Of course, in the US things might be vastly different.
These mobile payments only work with your banks app or a dedicated app (Payconiq).
My current approach is to put all these apps in my work profile which I can turn off (using Insular from F-Droid). Only apps for which I need background activity or instant notifications (Signal, an open source podcast app, and sadly WhatsApp) are installed in the main profile.
Sadly, this approach still requires me to have Google services always running in the background for a functioning Play store in my work profile.
* but I have to admit that the hardware is quite slow
It is because computers run one of a few available OS's. The OS is being maintained by the distributer (MS, Apple, Google) and your hardware is good as long as the drivers are still receiving updates.
Phones are different because even though everyone only uses iOS or Android, every Android manufacturer puts their own layer onto Android, so Google can continusously update it but the manufacturer might not. Most companies only maintain their phones for about 3 years, giving a significantly reduced lifetime than computers.
It still works fine, from from a security perspective, keeping the phone without patch support is a bad idea.
It is really annoying how every vendor cobbles together a Frankenstein abomination of a kernel with just the right drivers and patches and good luck trying to run anything else. But I also understand that they (except maybe for Google) have no interest or incentive to clean up this mess.
Fairphone 5 will receive security updates for 8 years
Pixel 8 will receive updates for 7 years
iPhone 15 will receive updates for 6+ years (apparently, Apple has a track record of between 6 and 8 years)
My laptop is also from more than a decade ago, and I'm happily running LMDE 6 on it.
Everyone doesn't have to live like this, but it's utterly valid, and no one has any right or justification to try to tell anyone else not to.
I can buy anything any time, but I miss swappable batteries, headphone jack, sd card. These were all basic utility features than made a device interoperable and more generally functional. Removing them only benefits the people selling new phones, wireless headphones, and cloud storage.
My old vaio 3 laptops ago is actually still perfectly fast enough at what I do today, it just only has usb2 ports, which eventually became too big of a pain point. But it also had a real docking station that you plop the machine into, not the stupid "docks" we have today that are not docks but just mega-dongle-hubs where you connect a usbc cable. I miss that dock every day since 5 years ago. I could easily still be using it today even though it must be 15 years old or more by now. And if I were, no one else would have any justification for trying to say that I shouldn't, and no software or service provider would have any justification for artificially creating some incompatibility that only serves their goals instead of mine.
But it's still doable for many people. I most recently bought a second-hand Pixel 6a for GrapheneOS, and BYOD it to an inexpensive no-contract plan.
Pixel 6a units with unlockable bootloaders are currently $235+ on US eBay, which is less than new current Pixels and iPhones bought outright, but more than many lower-end devices, and more upfront than people pay for contract plans that toss in a phone.
It's very interesting because 1/4 of Pixel 6a would be around 80 EUR... so I wonder about your environment and what workarounds you have for these problems.
The device I use regularly is moto g14 which is at about 8500 online, with discounts can go for 8000.
Honestly there is no work around as the moto g14 comes with a 4gb ram and 128 GB internal storage, 6.5 inch screen and 5k mah battery, it can do pretty much anything.
I've just started working full-time after college and now I earn more than enough to buy pixels or iphones but currently the money is going on other important things that were pending
It was much easier to find a Pixel 4 or a 4a, but those were too expensive for me.