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Another SAAS embedded within Car which cannot be opted out. Is there a way to get FOSS Tesla? IMO the Government must intervene to make this opt-in rather than compulsory?

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?? You have to grant an app access to your car via the API with your own Tesla.com oauth creds.

Will it work without Tesla.com account? Or no internet access at all? I just want to drive the Tesla car without internet without any smart features. Is that possible?

Like any other car, if you have the physical key* you can open it and drive it.

You do need an account with Tesla to buy a new one though.

*and PIN if applicable

Yes, you can drive the car without a Tesla.com account. You miss out on important features such as software updates, remote monitoring/alerting, and the ability to SuperCharge. However you can charge at home or at other Level 2 chargers. And once the NACS plug becomes more widespread you should be able to DC fast charge at non-SuperCharger locations.

You might be interested in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_car - otherwise, I mean, if you're not into Teslas, no one is making you buy one.. Not sure what your angle is. I love linux and FOSS myself, not putting your angle down I just don't see your point exactly. You can vote with your wallets, and everyone else can too.

This is an API for developers to build opt-in apps on top of. The user (the Tesla owner) has to explicitly grant access to an app for it to do anything.

FOSS laws never made as much sense. How can we not have the right to understand how our 3000 lb death machines work?

No one’s forcing you to use them

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