> Yes, MacOS Has them set as "Only Show When Scrolling" by default, which is probably the most ridiculous setting.

I have used MacOS every day for 10 years and i've never, except in exceptional circumstances, used the scrollbar to scroll. I don't see anybody in my circle using it. They all have the "Only Show When Scrolling" setting on.

I don't think this is ridiculous and I would enable the setting if turned off by default.

I also spend 99% percent of my time in full-screen mode in safari, vscode or terminal. So the top bar is also hidden by default. I think this is much more focused.