The data and puzzling history behind California's new red food dye ban
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This feels like maybe another example of expending a lot of political energy on something that will have no impact, while almost certainly expending a lot less energy on more important matters.
California has 40 million people. With something as ubiquitous as food dye, that would be 2400 people developing cancer.
Preventing that doesn’t strike me as a “no impact” move.
If we can avoid these things without substantial human cost on the balance (do more people die harvesting beets than producing Red #5?), why would we not?
Yes, and we test people for allergy to these attacks, and often those people carry interventions like EpiPens, etc.—this risk is high enough that we do something about it, no? People clear nests near their homes, etc.
Why not do something about red dye?
I agree that it's unlikely to affect many people. At a population level, we often take action to further reduce low-risk events because the aggregate benefit is high (2400 cancers prevented) and the cost is low (a few companies spend a few bucks to replace a barely-toxic red dye with a non-toxic one).
One reason we do this is that the same trade-off at the individual level is comparatively expensive and wasteful, as the benefits only accrue (and the costs may only be low) if you can aggregate them over a large enough sample size.
Consider another example: most people are not affected by vehicle accidents, but the risk is still there and pretty high. At the individual level, there is very little you can do besides "not drive" and "live in a pedestrian area". Historically, few car manufacturers included safety features before they were mandated, because they increased cost and consumers did not perceive the risk as high enough to be worth it. Regulation that mandates these safety measures raises the cost floor, but not by as much because now the extra cost is somewhat amortized over the full fleet for sale. Further, some of these safety features primarily benefit people other than the vehicle owners, like backup cameras.
How many people are killed by vehicles backing up? Lifetime risk is also about 1 in 100,000. Yet we still mandate this feature in new vehicles because the cost is comparatively low.
There are plenty of these kinds of trade-offs that regulators make at a population level that would not necessarily make sense at an individual level. The individual impact is quite low. But the combined aggregate effect is probably quite large.
So the spicy hot frozen chicken wings are a slightly different different shade of red, who cares.
Beet juice, annatto, spirulina, carrot juice / beta carotene, and many other options abound. What infuriates me is when I see something white (like vanilla pudding) that contains blue #5... for no good reason.
Jokes aside, that's a good point - but if you think about it, why should we want to ingest something that provides no health value and only exists to make the food product look more visually appealing?
I don't know what kind of epidemiological effects dye has had in the long run, but it just makes no sense to me that as a society we have said "yeah, color our food so it looks more appealing, even though chemically it's probably not great for us". Just sort of odd, honestly.
Nutritious food doesn't always look amazing, and that's completely fine by me. I don't eat food because of the color, I eat food because it's healthy or tasty.
You may be fine receiving an uglier food item, but I bet you don't seek it out when judging equally-priced alternatives.
How is this meaningfully different from adding salts and sugars to make food taste more appealing?
While there are a relative few who would be happy with a bland looking, bland tasting shake for 3 meals a day, most people wouldn't. Biologically, it's _normal_ for people to want food to look and taste appealing.
Also, of course we want food to taste good, that's half the point of eating and why people enjoy eating. Adding a coloring dye doesn't affect taste.
I suspect that a major problem is the fact that everything is focus group driven and when given the choice between a frozen drink dyed red with beet juice and the same drink dyed neon red with food dyes, people will gravitate towards the neon red drink because that’s what we’ve been conditioned to believe is higher quality.
Sure - in the lab experiment, the dosage is higher. But plenty of things are dangerous after time, or only for a very tiny fraction of people. Plenty of things might have effects that aren't routinely measured in mice (eg. this additive makes your eyesight worse, or that additive makes you dumber).
What can be done to close this gap?
If people consuming more of an ingredient end up performing worse at school, involved in more crime, having more sick days, or dying younger, then the government should spring into action and ban/restrict it pending a proper controlled study.
A special government department should be set up to handle and analyze this (very private) data, firewalled off from the rest of government. It's worth it to make millions of peoples lives healthier.
It _would be_ a huge intrusion into people's privacy.
But we don't know that's true with anywhere near degree of certainly. Pretending that it is borderline lying and only serves to weaken trust in institutions.
I worked in health-adjacent fields for several decades and it took me quite some time to recognize that some of the best ideas for public health are simply non-viable due to political opposition, and "have the government set up an epidemiological wing that does data science on private data to improve health" is definitely one of them.
Many many many pick obesity.
If additive X still looks like it's doing harm when the data from the controlled study comes in, ban it.
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2008/04/food-standards-ag...
Do you also find the bans on lead-acetate sweeteners to be silly since the Romans managed to build a big empire while also drinking lots of wines sweetened with it?
Or really just add Cancer Facts into Nutrition Facts, complete with estimated QALY cost per serving. They should also incorporate IQ damage and not only cancer.
It's the equivalent of putting "no artificial sweeteners" on a bag of sugar.