Police Are Using Phone Tracking As A Routine Tool
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That's just what I was thinking last time I held up the local liquor store. Who knew I had so much in common with the police!
I'm a civil libertarian, but I've found that I'm saner and my perspective much improved by remembering that the police are not an evil entity out to destroy us all, but rather a typically clumsy and inept collection of human beings trying to perform a vital task for society.
Seeing the police this way lets you pick out the difference between, for instance, false-alerting drug dogs used to effect civil asset forfeitures on interstate highways from situations like "active investigations aided by cell tower locations".
The rather "Up With People" connotations conveyed by Hanlon's Razor (i.e. "do not ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity") may be preferable to the more cynical tone of my chosen phrasing when dealing with inconsequential events. However, when effectively malicious incompetence and lack of foresight occur within societal institutions capable of sufficient influence, a perceived lack of malicious intent should not distract those affected by the offending institution from aggressively rooting out the sources of the incompetence.
I would also like to make a subtle point regarding the way in which you seem to have associated the phrase "the police" with a collection of instances of "police(wo)man". As suggested by my previous paragraph, I think it is worth distinguishing between "the police" as a societal institution capable of profoundly affecting those within its sphere of influence and those individuals from which it is composed.
In particular, it seems that attributing systemic problems to the individuals through whom they are expressed leads to a pair of difficulties. The first difficulty is that which you encountered, in which one hesitates to apportion any blame due to the perception that any assigned blame would correspond to an attribution of evil/malicious intent to a fellow flesh-and-blood human. The second difficulty is that pursuing solutions to a systemic capacity for sustained malicious ignorance/incompetence/ineptitude through actions targeted at the individuals through whom this capacity is expressed offers a potent example of the potential futility of treating symptoms rather than causes.
Note that my view converges with (my interpretation of) yours in the sense that I consider it important to avoid unnecessarily shifting blame earned by an institution onto its constituents, as this is unlikely to ameliorate systemic problems while generally producing negative consequences for those onto whom blame is shifted.
That's not what I'm doing.
I'm saying that adversarial encounters with the police are in the general case far more likely to involve actual criminals than they do law-abiding people being oppressed by malicious or busybody government entities.
I'm not saying that in order to advocate for a specific policy. I support increased oversight of the police. What I'm doing is objecting to sentences like "this sums up the whole problem with law enforcement". That wording clouds the issue. It makes it hard to distinguish between legitimate policing interests and illegitimate ones.
The court did not find that people have a reasonable expectation to privacy in public spaces (an argument made by the defense in that case). If you're out and about in public, your location isn't private. This is obvious, because it's clearly lawful for the police to simply follow you around in public.
(I'm happy if the police end up universally needing [easily obtained] court orders to collect cell tower logs, but unlike most of HN, I don't see the status quo as particularly outrageous).
This isn't obvious to me at all. I think you're falling into a trap peculiar to computer security in particular, generalizing from binary distinctions of "secure" vs "insecure", or "anonymous" vs "authenticated" as if these things were matters of Boolean logic, rather than of probabilities and degrees, in arenas outside of the easily automated.
If you're being followed around in public, that is by itself obvious; it normally affects your behaviour, it's stressful, and in fact prisons (Panopticon) have been designed around the idea of being under constant surveillance. The specific and explicit goal of such was "obtaining power of mind over mind"; if you don't think those who literally seek power do not have similar motives, you're naive.
The cost of following someone around means that it will only be applied in cases where police value it highly; presumably, incentives up the chain of command are aligned such that that level of investment is only made when the public interest is high; similarly, the levels of manpower will mean that conspiracy and persecution would be hard to hide.
When the effect of following someone around - knowing where they are at all times - is automated and based on cheap technology - indeed, technology whose cost is largely borne by those being followed, for phones - then the bar for following is much lowered. Far more trivial cases can have this level of intrusiveness applied to them; the public interest may not be so well served. Furthermore, without appropriate controls, persecution by individuals is enabled, without any need for a group conspiracy. For example, ex-husbands with access may spy on the location of their ex-wives and further their own corrupt, human goals.
But your logic doesn't work anyways. If it did, we wouldn't need "stalking" laws. In stalking cases, defendants are guilty if the state (in this case, Connecticut) can prove (1) intent to to cause fear for their physical safety, (2) purposeful following not undertaken for lawful purposes, (3) willfulness, (4) repetition, and (5) that the victim actually ended up fearing for their safety. (That's paraphrased from CT model jury instructions).
Think about all the private following, observation, and even spying that this doesn't cover.
I'm talking about the philosophical matter of generalizing from specific cases of monitoring to mass surveillance, arguing that a justification for the former is not a justification for the latter, because the two are different in substance, not just quantity.
Case results follow from interpretation of laws; laws follow from philosophical principles. I'm arguing the philosophical principles. I don't accept counterarguments in the form of citations of specific laws, or interpretation of those laws, as valid.
That sounds like a super fun debate to have, but, pass.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/03/the-ph...
Drug dogs. Let's deal with that problem first, OK? Because we appear to have outsourced the 4th Amendment to dogs. I have a dog. My dog's jurisprudential capabilities are highly suspect.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcri...
If there is anything that history can teach us, it's that law enforcement agencies will work hard to keep us from knowing that this is going on and they will fight to keep this tool because it makes it easier for them to do their job. Ask any cop and they will tell you that they often view our "rights" as a complete hinderance to their effectiveness.
One man's "civil rights and due process" is another man's "got off on a technicality."
There's no enumerated right to privacy. There's a right to be free from "unreasonable" searches. But, if you actually read the key Supreme Court majority opinions establishing what "reasonable" means, you find that it concedes privacy in every case in which legitimate government interests are at stake.
The Constitution specifies that there are rights that are not enumerated in the Constitution (or the Bill of Rights) that are yours nonetheless. The SCOTUS has found that this includes "the right to privacy."
Here is the first link from a 2 second Google search that might prove enlightening on the general scope fo the issues involved: http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/rightof...
Here is another:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut
Generally speaking, if the SCOTUS says it's the law, you can consider their decision to be nearly equivalent to a general incorporation into the Consitution since all courts below it are essentially BOUND to follow that decision if it's relevant. If SCOTUS says it's illegal, it's illegal.
And I would disagree with your characterization of what "key Supreme Court majority opinions" say. The reasonableness test is one that gets bandied about quite a bit. You're going to have to cite specific cases if you're going to make that claim.
Here is one that supports mine:
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/10-1259.pdf
Ctrl-F "reasonable expectation of privacy"
For the Constitutionality of searches without warrants in exigent circumstances or in situations where searches have limited scope and support a legitimate interest of the state, how about GM Leasing v United States.
Also, Katz is a case that comes up a lot in SCOTUS opinions about "reasonable" search (we have Katz to thank for the fact that wiretaps require warrants). From the majority opinion:
What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9210492700696416...
Finally, Griswold is the case everyone cites with regards to a specific right to privacy. But if you look at cases that follow it, like Lawrence v. Texas, we again see words like "legitimate state interest" (Ctr-F for it).
My point here isn't that there's no Constitutional protection of privacy. I'm just saying that there's no enumerated right to privacy, and implying that privacy protections under the Constitutions are lesser protections compared to freedom of speech and religion, or the freedom to bear arms. Of the possible freedoms a Constitution could explicitly grant, "privacy" seems like one of the least tenable, given how often privacy comes into tension with law enforcement.
-The cops did in fact get a warrant to place a GPS device on the subjects car, but did so outside the terms of the warrant.
-The argument that the actual installation and tracking didn't constitute a search was rejected.
The point I'm trying to make is that there are lots of congruent mechanisms that make this information available to third parties that aren't necessarily going to be encumbered by the need to install a "tracking device" on a subject vehicle. Lots of information is already collected in the normal and proper operation of things like cellphones (for E911 -or- Facebook). There is VERY little case-law on this specific subject but I think my point (which we were originally arguing) that there is a "reasonable expectation of privacy" is enshrined in law.
The fact that you are driving a car on a public road isn't necessarily private, but I think it would be reasonable to suggest that the exact movements of a person over a period of a year (for example), to include who they might be co-located with in a specific property, or other pertinent meta-data DOES constitute something we would reasonably expect to be private.
To your other point:
"What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection."
There are MANY MANY instances where personal data is exported and stored without the knowledge of an individual that create all sorts of legal minefields for you. For example, I might be fully aware that my car is not invisible and can be seen by people on my street. I might be completely unaware that my cellphone is regularly broadcasting my location to Verizon or ATT even when I'm not using it.
There is a HUGE gap in public understanding of the practical effects of this technology use and the repercussions of that use. This "reasonable expectation of privacy" bit is going to collide with technology in a big big way IMHO.
Everybody wants privacy in every situation. The whole point of there being a notion of a "reasonable expectation" to it is that a line has to be drawn somewhere. Without it, there'd be no law enforcement at all.
The whole point of getting a warrant is to justify to a competent legal authority (judge) that the specific right (reasonable expectation of privacy) is outweighed by the states interest (upholding the law). NOBODY here is claiming that this right is absolute.
More to the point: if the cops had simply done their job and obtained the warrant, executed it properly, and stayed within the confines of that warrant, there is no case for the SCOTUS to hear.
Again: the FBI lost this case because they physically tampered with someone else's effects. They did not lose because SCOTUS determined that people have a reasonable expectation of privacy in their public movements. Which is unsurprising, because SCOTUS has explicitly said people don't reasonably have that expectation.
So, no. Not being disingenuous. Again: under your reasoning, couldn't the drug dealer fall back on their reasonable expectation of not having someone tail them as they transited from the drug corner to the stash house? Because the police can obviously do that without a warrant.
But your argument falls apart if the cops can go to Verizon or AT&T and pull your cached GPS data without a warrant. I certainly feel like that would be an unreasonable search. I think most people would agree with me. I think that's where the law will ultimately take us too.
Maybe we feel it's more reasonable for the police to tail us because they're collecting the information actively and in real-time.
Here is where I tend to disagree with strict constructionists: the framers were particularly aware that future situations might call for adjustments to the Constitution. It was far more important to generally provide a set of principles that could be adopted by a society and then adjusted as their reality evolved.
There is no way that the Framers could have foreseen wall-penetrating radar systems or GPS-enabled cellphones. Our justice system had a hard enough time coming to grips with the telephone and what that meant for Fourth Amendment protections. Since the Right to Privacy isn't enumerated but rather implied by the other Rights, we are probably going to see more cases similar in context U.S. v. Jones where the technical capability to track someone exists that doesn't involve an actual trespass by law-enforcement.
What about image recognition on those cameras? It won't be long before they can just punch in a license plate number.
How comfortable do you feel about the government compiling a dossier of your movements? Do you believe that there isn't some chance that this data will tempt someone to use it improperly?
It also feels (word chosen carefully) like this capability is going to have more positive uses than negative ones. If I want to focus my energy on the law enforcement stuff that really matters, then perhaps I focus on whether we're criminalizing the right things (for instance: drug criminalization is a debacle), and whether we're appropriately constraining the ability of the police to detain and physically search us.
We were able to develop a framework to protect telephonic communication (against the wishes of law enforcement I might add) and I think something similar can be accomplished with electronic records compiled by service providers. If the government can pass a law making it illegal for me to sell lemonade without the appropriate permits, they sure as heck can pass a law restricting the sale or distribution of personal data.
I want my location to be made available (to others) to serve ME, but not propagated wantonly willy-nilly to the highest bidder. That's REALLY the major issue here; if these records are permitted to be generated for "legitimate business purposes permitted by law" then it's a free for all, since those records can be subpoenaed. But if we make certain classes of those records "personal identifiable data" then it's easy to erect a barrier to that information legally. The cops and marketers will complain to holy hell about it but I feel like it's a necessary step we as a society need to take to prevent total abuse by the powers-that-be.
I think that this sentence reveals everything about your position: you aren't thinking in terms of citizens but rather in terms of criminals. And this reveals binary thinking that, fundamentally, cops are the good guys and anyone they are interested in are bad guys, and cops can and should use any and all tools in their power to track down and stop those bad guys.
This is a deeply problematic view to a lot of people here and elsewhere. We have all seen video of the police murdering the homeless; we have all seen video of police brutalizing bystanders and stealing/destroying their recording equipment. And for every concrete video, there are hundreds, thousands of stories of police bullying, abusing, and otherwise misusing their power. We have all heard of photographers being needlessly hassled, and the various abuses, mistakes, and humiliations that the TSA visits upon Americans and America's visitors every day. And that's just here in the USA. I have personally witnessed several instances of petty abuses of police power, physically assaulted for "mouthing off" to an OC Sheriff (I had a camera and would not give it to him, and he grabbed it and the strap and threw me down), and have a friend who was traumatized as a boy by an officer of the law.
One of the biggest problems with how policing is done is that police look for anything "out of the ordinary", and then act to discourage it. If your look or lifestyle is out of the ordinary, you're a target. If you are doing something on your property that is out of the ordinary, you're a target.
Intrusive, scary, brutal, arbitrary, conformist. And these are the people you want to give even more authority and power and control to?
No thanks. We already have police driving around with heavy weaponry in their vehicles, while elsewhere in the world somehow the police make due with a nightstick. They already passively scan license plates for DMV paperwork violations. There is no need to give them more power, more information, or more control over me, my information, or my life.
And all that means is that the police shouldn't be left to regulate themselves. And, they aren't.
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Your phone tracking software is non-binding and irrelevant in court. It says so in the user agreements you click-through. That said, its nice to have the ability to wipe and lock the device remotely.
(Of course, this is a case in which I obviously would have consented to them tracking my phone).
It was crazy. I told my neighbors: the muggers asked for my bag, I said no, so they settled for $12 and a device that tracked them from space.
Call your local alderman, etc and make a stink about it.
It can be a pretty entertaining listen.
Anyone fancy taking a guess at what this might be?
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The actual triangulation of the position once you can do that is pretty trivial I'd imagine, perhaps with some algorithms for compensating for physical obstructions between you and the target.
And why isn't this practice challenged in court by defendants? It seems like a clear violation of the 4th Amendment, and should result in acquittal.
It's possible that, as happened with the FBI GPS case, the police are going to end up needing court orders to get this information in the future. But are you aware of the evidentiary requirements to get similar court orders? They're minimal. The police will get these court orders whenever they ask for them: the history of recorded locations of subjects in active investigations is certainly going to be considered legitimate enough to outweigh the privacy expectations here.
I'm happy if the police end up needing court orders for this, but I'm also happy the police have access to this facility.
Court involvement means court supervision and ultimately a more consistent application of justice. The courts are more trustworthy than a faceless police agency. I agree that it's a good thing that the police have access to this sort of technology -- but someone needs to watch the watchers.
I ask because the police appear to be using this capability in actual investigations. They have a subject, they want to follow the subject. It's not a dragnet kind of thing.
The NYS Department of Labor and the NYS Office of the Inspector General placed GPS devices on the personal vehicles of an employee who was being investigated for timecard abuse. (http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/nyclu-files-suit-...)
This isn't exactly the same, but I think the issues are similar enough for discussion purposes. Police do have the ability to have investigators follow someone to learn about their behavior. But the costs associated with doing this, both in dollars and investigative resources, are high enough that police do not follow subjects 24x7 often -- certainly not to investigate some state employee's time card issues. How low does the bar go? Will the cops track me if I'm suspected of illegally obtaining fireworks? Jump a subway turnstile? Shoplift a candy bar?
This relatively new technology lowers the cost curve so much that the barrier to entry is trivally low. And that is a problem that must be moderated by some power external to the police.
Is anyone harmed? I don't know how you could argue that having the authorities systematically track someone's movements isn't harmful. Even people as irrational as crazy ex-boyfriends track the movements of their ex's to intimidate. How would you feel personally if you found a GPS tracker on your car? Or discovered that your phone was tapped? I would feel sick -- whether I was a criminal or not!
As for your last sentence, the police have needed warrants to tap your phone since the 1950s, and need a warrant to place a GPS tracker on your car, so I'm not sure what the point of those examples is either.
Agreed, I'd like someone to answer this. As far as I can tell, this isn't especially different from having a detective shadow you, which (unless I'm mistaken) has always been pretty acceptable for law enforcement to do.
"In Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967), the Supreme Court ruled that a party is considered to have been searched, for Fourth Amendment purposes, if that party had a "reasonable expectation of privacy".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United...
What a person knowingly exposes to the public, even in his own home or office, is not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection. http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=9210492700696416....