Epic Games Sale of Bandcamp Has Left the Artist-Friendly Music Platform in Limbo
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To respond to your question anyway: I don't really like telling people what to do (don't tread on anyone and all that) but if it was up to me to choose what they did, then not selling the company to Epic, or any other hungry hungry corpos, would have been a default stance.
Considering how successful the platform is/was -- and the excellent financial situation they apparently were in for the last decade -- it seems like selling the company to Epic (a random and unnatural fit) would be a gamble at best. There's a negligible chance that it could have ended well for the artists or the users but I'm sure it's ending well for some of those involved.
Also, yeah, convert your business to a not-for-profit or hand it down to the employees when you're dying / done with it. That sounds like the sort of thing that makes the world a better place, which is commendable.
Also, what?
> “Based on its current financials, Bandcamp requires some adjustments to ensure a sustainable and healthy company that can serve its community of artists and fans long into the future,” says a statement provided by Songtradr chief marketing officer Lindsay Nahmiache. It says the company will be extending job offers to Bandcamp staff over the next few weeks as the sale is finalized.
Since when does Bandcamp have financial issues? Or is it just not profitable enough and now Songtradr wants to squeeze it for all they can?
This is interesting. Bandcamp's website says they've been profitable since 2012.[0] If that's still true what other adjustments might be needed?
ETA:
Of course, history doesn't repeat itself, it just rhymes. Mp3 dot com embarked on a music locker project that basically got it killed by the RIAA, and Bandcamp didn't repeat that mistake.
Is there a song for that on Bandcamp?
Epic discarding it is simply a continuation of the downward spiral.
Not transferring the employees (and their union) though is very worrying, I hope they'll step back on that.
I found out that Songtradr had also acquired 7digital, my go-to general music store (the only vast drm-free store with decent privacy policies that I could find)
https://actionnetwork.org/petitions/songtradr-recognize-band...
https://www.theverge.com/23899461/discogs-sellers-vinyl-cds-...
Weird editing here—one name in lowercase?
> posted on X (formerly Twitter)
Speaking of editing—oh my, are we going to do this parenthetical forever?
> Barringer, the Bandcamp software engineer, says that a handful of engineers are still performing the critical tasks needed to keep the site running, but otherwise they can’t commit new code. He found a minor bug this week but couldn’t access the program he needed to fix it.
This is interesting! They're locked out of the tools for committing code, but have production access? (SSH?)
But if they are trying to demonstrate their necessity and want to form a union, not doing those critical tasks may be a better idea? If the company is not showing interest in supporting you, don't support the company?
Speaking of editing—oh my, are we going to do this parenthetical forever?
X isn't a brand, it's a foundation of our alphabet and used for many different things in society. So yes, we will do this likely until it's no longer used. Thank elon for that.It doesn't cost you much to glaze over the parenthetical but helps a lot for the couple of readers who won't understand.
Especially since Googling still doesn't work, here are the results in order: the Twitter handle, the film, the app (The X app is the trusted global digital town square for everyone. With X, you can: - Post content for the world to see and join public conversation), the movie a few times, the band, a bunch of pictures and finally Twitter is rebranding.
Note the handle and app don't mention Twitter except in an unhelpful way.
Pretty sure the actual one is the last link on the first page.
So, Twitter is now X but when we tire of explaining away the inherent confusion of a single letter name, we'll converge on calling it TWFKAT.
As far as I can tell, it has music file storage gated behind a paywall (or not, plenty of music is offered for free), a few very basic functionalities like liking/wishlisting albums, and “following” musicians (fwiw… not sure what’s the value of that… a personalized feed?) and… that’s pretty much it? I guess the front page, which I assume boost sales a little bit for the included musicians?
What am I missing?
While you can find a some of the big names in specific genres on bandcamp, it’s always struck me as more of a place for underground and tiny artists. The genre breakdown categories tend to be pretty good, and you can find some interesting stuff that’s not easily found elsewhere. Sometimes I’d just go into a specific genre and start listening to anything that caught my eye. I usually found it much better than streaming platforms, that just continuously recommend the same stuff I’ve heard time and time again, but just didn’t have in a playlist. I do have a problem with their mobile app though: It doesn’t allow you to change the sort method, so you end up seeing a lot of stuff you’ve already seen before.
To be honest, I don’t use it as much as I used to. Nowadays, I’ve mostly found YouTube channels that upload and curate various rare and underground content for specific genres and that’s how I do most of my new (and new old) music discovery.
A place to purchase and download music legally, in lossless formats, mostly from smaller artists. In some ways it's closer to Patreon than iTunes.
Most people don't buy music anyway so it's a niche product, and a niche even within that as Apple Music/Amazon Music etc have a larger selection.
No clue what Epic was doing with this purchase. My best guess is big plans to make it the next Spotify that got derailed by ZIRP ending.
This is what streaming services have done to artists - the idea of "paying an artist for their music" is such an alien idea to some people that it ends up phrased like this.
Apple music is slowly erasing iTunes, the media management aspect of it seems to be slowly breaking down, currently all my album art is completely messed up on my iPhone.
That's not normal. Maybe just sync your library again.
It's so prevalent, I thought it was a feature I didn't know about. It's been years. This makes the platform almost unusable.
It's pretty amazing to see such fundamental usability issues never get fixed. It's astonishing to see in flagship software from a major company. It just doesn't work at all in a basic sense.
Actual money going to the actual people who make the music you listen to on spotify.
I want to show off the albums I bought to the world, ideally with some way to prove that I really spent money on them.
The albums are comparable to NFTs (though fungibility is arguable in both cases), with the caveat that the Bandcamp system is entirely centralized. If the company goes bust, so does my collection.
Though I appreciate that their ethics kept them from doing it, if anyone should've jumped on the NFT wagon, it should've been them. This would've detached the proof of ownership from the company and allowed a secondary market to exist (also important, should the company stop existing/change terms).
I don’t want to buy an NFT to “show off albums I bought” as this seems like no real new value to me. I can already show off these albums I listen to (much better than just bought I think).
Personally, I don't want to collect all music that I listen to (which I can do for virtually free through streaming services). I also find the likes of last.fm cool, but for different reasons.
I'm looking for the digital equivalent of a CD/vinyl collection, which these are not.