Tech giants Meta, Amazon lay off more workers as cuts continue

> Most of us would love to have a flop that gets 100M users in just over 100 hours.

Vast majority of those users have stopped using the service. Activity is down at least 85%.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/31/threads-web-launch-did-lit...

https://www.similarweb.com/blog/insights/social-media-news/t...

What happened to all those senior twitter engineers Musk fired a year ago who said twitter would die in a week without them?

Look at the replies on this post, it's a dumpster fire: https://www.threads.net/@jeffbezos/post/CyFInFjrRxs

So far, a community made of people whose most common shared trait is hating Elon Musk seems like not a very nice place to be.

The only interesting thing about it as a user is if someone famous happens to post there for some reason they often get very little engagement, and as a result if you reply to them there's a higher chance they might read it and respond compared to other platforms.

Is this true? I don’t see how it could be. Or are you saying the engineering team is 12?

are you trying to get hired right now? How long have you been in the industry? I have a feeling that this sentiment is not coming from people who have been laid off. I know people that have left voluntarily who are not having an easy time either.

> depends.. i think it feels saturated if you are a poor performer.

There's a lot of luck involved in getting hired right now, even for high performers. There are a lot of other high performers competing for the same jobs.

I know some people who were laid off and found jobs in a few weeks, several others who were on the market for many months, and there was not a significant skill-based correlation.

I'd also assume a non-zero amount of those folks are intentionally taking employment breaks. I took almost a year off, but to the average stranger it may have looked like I was unemployed and couldn't find a job.

Way to put "agile coach" in sneer quotes, when the whole purpose of that whole career path is to help make sure devs aren't wasting their time on bullshit from incompetent business folks, or being burned out, or re-inventing the wheel AGAIN, which in turn earns the shareholders more money and decreases turnover via not burning people out.

But then again, I guess we're back to "I'm an engineer, all these non-technical people are non-value-add because I can engineer everything." Even when some of them are, actually, technical themselves and just chose another path to use their skills.

So, are you seeing a larger pool of say, L5s that are applying for L4 jobs?

Or does your company have generic openings, and you’re saying that people are now more comfortable with offers a lower level than they’d qualify for? (which puts them at the top of level N vs bottom of N+1).

In either case, it sounds very much like an employers market right now. The only exceptions would likely be individuals in high demand roles (like AI/ML).

What company? Finding places with decent openings is brutal. You can Add Gmail to my username if you prefer and don't mind sharing.

The over-hiring was at least somewhat acknowledged tactic big tech companies use to starve future potential competitors. If all the good talent is taken even for only 5 years you can extend the time that you have an advantage without having to innovate

Don’t know your situation, but you can break out of that. I did. First you have to decide you don’t want to think that way. No easy answer, but increasing my income and lowering my cost of living went a long way to giving myself more resources to figure it out. Hope you find a path worth walking to you. Feel free to email me if you want my story.

Do me a favor and read over your own comment again.

It's immediately evident that it is a false statement. Perhaps you are sad and lonely. That could very well be the case. A lot of people are in the same boat, I know I am. Perhaps you have other issues entirely.

But that doesn't mean that your job is the only thing that makes you "worth anything as a human". Your worth as a person is given to you when you were born.

Not by the state. Not by your community. But by the very fact that you are a living, conscious thing. Life might be hard, but that doesn't mean without your job you are nothing.

Your job is just a job…

What makes you worth anything is who you are as a person. That’s what makes you everything.

At least to me it seems like you have an unhealthy relationship with your job or just work in general.

same

By that logic, babies, children, retired people, and folks too disabled to work are worthless. Do you really believe that? Please consider getting screened for depression if you haven’t been already.

as many others now have said, you have great value (in my worldview, you have infinite value as a divinely created being, for that matter, not that I expect you to just believe me when I say that). Losing or never attaining success, money, and glamour does put people into disfavor with much of the world, but when you lose those things I really think it can be an opportunity to look within yourself and discover value that comes from a wholly different frame of reference. I’ve met enough people without great charisma, money, beauty, or power, who have still found contentment and joy (at times, at least; many still go through up and down seasons of mental struggle on a monthly or hourly cycle!) because they have found their own worth in the light of different schemas of valuation. And other people recognize these figures too! People know when they meet someone who is content to authentically be themselves without the esteem that comes from, say, a good job, or anything else. Don’t you sense it sometimes, when you meet someone like that? It’s not just charisma, it’s something better.

I don't think you should feel 'bad', but personally I feel extremely grateful and lucky to enjoy doing something that happens to be very marketable skill.

I often think about people in other professions who have to work harder in poorer conditions for less money.

For me, the best way to direct these feelings is to recognise I don't deserve this any more than those others in any meaningful sense, to try and live modestly and help out others to try and redress some of the imbalance.

The higher paid superiors are just more of a tiny fraction of the population who happen also to be in an extremely lucky position

GP's comment is absurd. I mean, if you're not following the grindset and working 3 different jobs at once, are you even really feeling the fire in your belly?

Perhaps C-levels should be better at their jobs and feel the "fire in their belly" (what an obnoxious phrase) to not harmfully impact so many people at once.

It makes sense if you lick boots and are a quisling.

From that frame of reference, it's so good the plebs have to continue their gladiatorial combat.

No, hopefully they are real jobs.