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Yes. The HDR on a recent Macbook Pro is the real deal, and unmistakable when you see it. Same with modern OLED HDR TVs - they can get so bright it hurts.

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I'm sure you mean LED TVs. OLED TVs are notorious for having a limited brightness. Only since 2022 are there some newer panels (called OLED.ext) that can do decent HDR.

> they can get so bright it hurts.

I regret that hn doesn't have HDR support so as to properly emphasize that <em><blink><pain>THIS IS NOT A FEATURE.</pain></blink></em>

It would have been a pretty nice feature though, if it could've been used to uniformly make SDR content brighter, to make the laptops more useful in sunlight and with sunglasses. Too bad that's not a feature (I'm guessing because it wear out the screen or something).

sunlight and with sunglasses

No thank you! If I’m outside enjoying the sun with sunglasses on then I have zero interest in using a laptop!

Sure, but there are also times when the desire to do something computery is greater than the desire to be outside. In those situations, it's a choice between being inside with a computer or being outside with a computer.

This is a “I'd like to turn up the brightness higher” feature, which is a different beast from “this advertisement would like to blind you; permit or deny?”

What OLEDS have decent brightness? OLEDS really struggle with that because of burn in. They can get temporarily bright, or bright in tiny zones, but in less than ideal conditions they crunch it right down.

LEDs have separate backlights, which is good for getting brighter but bad for contrast because they can't get as dark as OLEDs.

I think the reason you don't want to drive OLEDs as hard (so there's current limitation/ABL) is more about burn-out than burn-in.

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