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This is ridiculous. Of course Windows 12 won't require a subscription.

It will only be required if you want to disable the native data collection and advertising.

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> It will only be required if you want to disable the native data collection and advertising.

maybe to begin with

then the ads and the tracking appear later anyway

Yes, after each update.

There will never be any price you can pay MS to give up telemetry and tracking

I'm surprised some enterprising hackers haven't hacked the binaries to nuke telemetry permanently (one used to see lots of Win hacks in the past).

But then, perhaps I've not been looking hard enough (I mostly use Penguin).

I think some enterprising hackers have long ago switched to a less hostile OS.

Reckon that's true (I mostly use Linux). Trouble is, Windows has such wide usage and large legacy that one often can't avoid it (some important commercial/industrial software just won't work under, say, Wine no matter how much tweaking and unfortunately there's no Linux version).

You must be hallucinating. Of course Microsoft will abuse you with ads and tracking, no matter how much you pay. And now that every last coffee machine in the world runs Windoze, they cannot grow by increasing the number of installations any more. The only way “up” is by raising the price.

No, sorry, that will be the premium tier above the paid basic ad subsidized tier. Today they only offer the basic ad subsidized tier with a subscription period of their support window.

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