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There is no sadder story in American capitalism than the decline of HP from a wonderful equipment engineering company to a racket for selling tiny little tubs of overpriced ink. Think a young Steve Jobs would be excited to get a job there now?

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Boeing, perhaps. The same thing happened there, as I understand it.

There’s also a strong argument for post-Jobs Apple being an even more tragic arc (that’s earlier on the curve). Time will tell. These things happen on the order of decades, not years.

Brain drain is real.

Good point! At least the sad husk of HP isn't killing people.

When’s the last time Boeing killed anyone?

In 2019 in Ethiopia.

That was largely the pilots, same as in Indonesia.

Uhm not sure about the exact date but Boeing Defense produces military aircraft so probably not too long ago.

What's this about Boeing?

Aside from the Max/MCAS fiasco, my remaining respect for Boeing went out the window because I live near one of their plants. Middle of the pandemic, they had employees protesting about mask and vaccine mandates out front, for weeks on end.

You're hiring people that scientifically dense to assemble hundred-million-dollar, high-precision death machines? I hope Airbus has a better HR team.

“Scientifically dense” is the first time I’ve heard that particular slur. Go back to your bubble where no one ever questions authority. (Boeing is a terrible company for a myriad of other reasons but you picked probably the worst example)

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