Hacker News Reader

Comment by munk-a | Hacker News Reader

Eliminating insurance would certainly help at this point - UHC alone is a wonderful proof of just how horrible that road is... but fee-for-service care directly paid for by customers needs to go. A reasonable level of healthcare is important and should be accessible to everyone.

View on HN

So we should eliminate insurance but replace it with insurance? I pay directly for my services when I can, have a subscription to a local “concierge doctor” or direct patient care.

No I am not a Silicon Valley bro, with the amount of kids I have I’m practically 200% above poverty line. I have “great” insurance and still do this. It can be done.

I know insurance intimately and it’s a terrible deal with poorly aligned incentives (for patients). I think removing any and all possible middle men will significantly decrease the corruption factor and waste factor. I don’t need 3 levels of coding reviewer bosses, support staff, adjusters, Blah blah blah to check my visit codes when I am the one responsible for ensuring what I ordered is what is delivered.

I also participate in an HSA and have been appreciating this idea and if anything think it should be increased, more tax breaks and more money directly to people.

Something that requires the service of others isn't a "right".

you have a right to be free. Right to self defense. Right to free speech.

You don't have a right to the services of others.

I would just briefly point out that all three rights you've listed require the assistance and consent of those around you.

I don't think the parent is correct in dismissing healthcare as a right, but to be fair, the rights they listed are 'passive' rights. They only require the state to not get in your way. e.g. you don't have a right to arms, you have a right to bear arms. If you can't get the weapons themselves there's absolutely no requirement for the government to give you some.

Who said anything about rights? We just want health care to be free at the site of service and funded by taxes. Just like fire fighters, police, etc. Every other western country does it that way, and none of them are clamoring to build a system like the USA currently has.

What about the right to bear arms. Do you want guns to be free at the site of service and funded by taxes? Just like a Militia giving away uniforms and long arms?

Reply on news.ycombinator.com