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Which is also the reason why a lot of the TikTok "but I'd rather CCP have my info than US agencies" is so infuriating. As if China isn't looking for influence with younger up-and-coming politicos. The utter lack of understanding from how much information about you the analysis of just "metadata" is that what can be learned from the actual "data" that data hoarders can collect is just mindblowingly naive to me.

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What does China have to do with the evils of the US intelligence community? Why even bring them up? What does potentially seeking influence with people have to do with blackmailing people or other COINTELPRO activities that were used to disrupt civil rights activists?

i wasn't bringing in China just for the sake of it. if you read enough threads here on HN, you'll see people making comments "i'd rather the CCP have my data than the TLAs of the US, since the CCP has no jurisdiction". it's a strawman privacy argument. invasion of privacy is bad regardless of the "who" is doing it. all of the pervasive tracking that is occurring has so many levels of knock-on effects that just get ignored or overlooked or whatever other term for being allowed is just not a good thing and should be something not allowed.

They’re dismissing it because using TikTok now is fun (or at least interesting) and those other things you’re talking about are not - and they can’t do anything about them anyway.

They're dismissing it because they're like a flamingo with their head deliberately in the sand. Critically thinking about things makes their head hurt.

It seems weird to target tiktok (or china for that matter) when everyone hoovers up and sells your data as a matter of fact. Everyone. And they all have bad intentions. What's so specially trustworthy about american fuckery over chinese?

please see response to sibling comment:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37770386

Yes, i agree that abuse is bad regardless of the perpetrator. No argument here.

so it's not weird. the weird is that you felt i was targeting when i was just providing a very specific example?

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