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Fighting against the USSR didn’t necessarily make you a Nazi

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7 pointszolbrek15 comments

For the first 3 years of WW2 USSR was an ally of nazis.

But let's not try to make SS people innocent.

> For the first 3 years of WW2 USSR was an ally of nazis.

This sounds inaccurate or at best an oversimplification of the complicated pre-WW2 treaties flying all over europe. I only see this idea in reference to the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, but that only lasted 2 years and was a non-aggression pact, not an alliance. But maybe you are talking about a different agreement?

What non-aggression??? USSR and Germany partitioned Poland in 1939

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Poland_(1939%E2%...

Thanks! I was looking at stuff that lasted the mentioned 3 years which I couldnt track to anything, and grouped the Poland invasion as part of this pact, though it's worth mentioning separately.

Fwiw, Non-aggression pact means no aggression against each other but it was an coordinated invasion of Poland, so your right.

Can we talk about actions as well, not only written agreements?

You had a chance to. The gp did too. You did not take it yet and instead asked my permission. Thank you, I guess. Go ahead, you may.

> For the first 3 years of WW2 USSR was an ally of nazis.

Let's not forget Finland.

What bother me is the recent trend of putting people like typists at the concentration camps on trial. Most people, given the situation of working as a typist or getting murdered by their government, would choose the former.

> In a post for the SS Galichina veterans’ blog Combatant News, Hunka wrote that 1941 to 1943 — after Germany invaded Ukraine and before Hunka enlisted — were the happiest years of his life. He also recalled eagerly awaiting “the legendary German knights” to come and attack “the hated Poles,” using a slur for Polish people, in 1939.

Idk dawg he doesn't sound like most people.

If he was a typist, why would the Canadian pairlament give him a standing ovation fighting against the Soviets? The two options sound like war criminal or stolen valor.

https://forward.com/news/562504/yaroslav-hunka-anthony-rota-...

> “the legendary German knights” to come and attack “the hated Poles,”

Maybe Poles were also not angels towards Ukrainians at that time.

Idk even in the face of geopolitical conflicts I don't think most people are rabid like this. Maybe in pre-WWII Europe they were, but they ended up gassing millions of people (Jews, communists, homosexuals, Romani).

So again, why is Canada giving this guy a standing ovation?

> So again, why is Canada giving this guy a standing ovation?

I think it was mistake and they apologized for that.

Runner-up headlines:

“Voluntarily joining the Nazis doesn’t necessarily make you a Nazi.”

“Does signing up to take orders from Hitler make you a Nazi? Science says no.”

“Is fighting for the Nazis a bad thing? Experts say it depends on who you hate.”

"Did fighting the Soviet Union on the eastern front in WWII put you on the wrong side of history? Some nonzero number of atrocities was committed on both sides, so who can say?"

Can we just make these people watch Come and See for two days straight or something?

Why are we defending an opportunist scumbag politician that gave a standing ovation to a Nazi? Embrace nazis maybe doesn’t immediately make you a nazi but you are probably a scumbag perhaps only nazi adjacent but scumbag none the less.

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