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How is Bing getting this before full rollout to all GPTPlus users?

The same reason Bing was running GPT-4 before Open AI even acknowledged the existence of the model. The $10B deal gives Microsoft exclusive access to all Open AI models.

Feels like a breaking issue for GPTPlus subscription plan when Bing has better features for free

Feature. Once the multimodal rollout is complete Plus will have image gen, image recognition, voice recognition and voice gen all integrated with the chat capabilities so you can combine those features in novel ways like the link Brockman retweeted showing ChatGPT acting as a language tutor and conversation partner.

To be fair you can do all that from Bing Chat too(image/voice recognition and generation). And plugins are coming to it too.

The downsides with Bing currently are:

1. If you're not prepared to be civil to a language model, you're not going to have a good time.

2. The image input feature isn't quite the same. Feels like descriptions are bolted in from a separate (GPT-4 V unless the Bing CTO was lying) model so it's lossy in a way straight from GPT-4 V isn't

3. Voice recognition and TTS are good but worse than what Open AI is currently using. Perhaps they'll switch since the TTS is new ? But idk. It's also not hands off like Open AI have designed their implementation.

Still waiting to gain Chat GPT-4 Plus image upload access myself, but the Bing image ingest / recognition is vastly inferior to what I've experienced myself (trying to use Bing's image upload capabilities/recognition) vs. what I've seen on Twitter the last few days with Chat GPT-4's image upload feature / recognition capabilities.

Microsoft owning 49% of OpenAI probably helps.

They don't actually own 49% of Open AI yet.

The deal was $10B for 75% of Open AI's profits until Microsoft recouped this investment. After the investment is recouped, then they have 49% of Open AI. The deal included access to all of Open AI's model.

that seems like an awful deal for OpenAI. Especially since there are so many AI Labs popping up, how exactly are they going to make enough profit to pay back 10 billion?

If they can't pay it back, that seems like an awful deal for MS, and a great deal for OpenAI.

Of course it's "only" 10% of their cash reserve anyway.

> Especially since there are so many AI Labs popping up, how exactly are they going to make enough profit to pay back 10 billion?

By building relationships with government officials and media, and using X-risk fearmongering to lobby for regulation that inhibits competition and locks in their dominant position.

No, after the 100*investment is recouped, MS will own 0% of openAI. Now they own 49%.

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