I question the motives of people who wax philosophic about this subject matter. Of all the gray areas of the law - one thing any normal person would find revolting is someone's attraction to minors. Now I've opened the door to people who will say "it's ok in X country because minors are 8 and younger" or some shit. Only on HN would this be controversial, what is it about this? Not the first time this debate has happened here with a similar refrain "but no actual children were harmed!". Ok, if you ignore how this source material is generated, predatory behaviors these people exhibit otherwise. It's a severe for of antisocial deviant depraved behavior - normalized here on HN.