Waste plastic can be recycled into hydrogen fuel and graphene
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All that "recycling" you're doing, carefully separating out plastics 1, 2, maybe 5, washing them, putting them in the bin... most of that doesn't get recycled into new plastic, but it would be fine for burning.
When we produce plastic we essentially convert oil into a highly stable form instead of burning it into the air. Essentially, we sequester the CO2 that would've been burnt if that oil was used as fuel. That's a huge benefit of using plastics that we are eliminating.
Plastic could be made from non-fossil carbon sources. If it is, then burning it is just fine, since it's putting no net carbon into the atmosphere.
Most plastic is made from natural gas btw, not from oil.
Plastic would be unpopular if we had to spend considerable amounts of capital to produce it.
Have you ever heard of a speculative plastic market? The plastics industry putting pressure on oil & gas prices? Nope
Fracked gas in the US is unusually high in ethane, the substance that is the primary feedstock for ethylene (and then polyethylene) production.
In a world without fossil fuel production, reduced carbon compounds will become more valuable. The cost of making plastic may rise, but plastic itself will become more valuable as a commodity for later use (either as a fuel or a feedstock).
Ethylene from fruit would not be competitive with other non-fossil sources. However, para-xylene can be made from biomass.
https://www.virent.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/...
There are numerous variations such as attempting to convert municipal waste to hydrogen-CO "syngas" with a plasma torch or attempting to cook plastic down to a toxic and carcinogenic mess of aromatic compounds that can be used as diesel fuel but the scenario is usually: (1) environmentalists tried to stop the project because of the toxics produced, (2) environmentalists fail to stop the project, they (3) build the machine, but (4) can't really get the machine to work and shut it down not long after it is put into operation.
See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_gasification_commercial...
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/02/clean-co...
It would be nice to see something succeed in this space but boy am I skeptical. Boosters make the point that it was a proven technology back in the 1910s, but a big coal gas factory they built in my hometown (Manchester, NH) became a big superfund site that is a huge gash in the area between the downtown and the river that I don't believe is fully remediated to this day.
Probably the most successful facility of this sort is
but that project was really too big to fail and it took them about 25 years to get the bugs out and it get it financially sustainable after it went bankrupt. That project also has a big strip mine across the street that gives it quality feedstock that lets them run the process consistently. Throw in random plastic from municipal waste that will never be the same twice and getting production of any kind of product will be a struggle, never mind production of quality products.
The SASOL corporation of South Africa has long been using technology of this sort to make gasoline from coal when they were under embargo, it is proposed that they'll export the technology whenever oil prices spike, but they always seem to forgot what happened last time. SASOL was the worst performing major stock in the world in 2020.
https://www.ohioexploration.com/structures/trashpowerplant/
Pantyhose and bowling balls in the fuel stream (municipal garbage) routinely took it off line.
How does the gasification reactor deal with that (or, these days, laptop batteries) I wonder?
But you're not wrong and I'm all for dealing with waste another way, primarily by drastically reducing it, but as long as we're burning huge amounts of coal, oil and gas, we might as well burn the garbage.
Note the power output on the one I was referencing was only 90MW, and it serviced a metropolitan area with ~1 million people. That’s 90 watts of base load per person, which is not zero, but it is close. Average energy demand per person in the US is about 3.4kw (including commercial and industrial, etc), so it’s mostly just useful for waste disposal. It’s possible the boilers on it were crappy, but if they were above 50% efficient (which is plausible, given its age), then the upper bound on a modern plant is 180W per person unless people start throwing away a lot more flammable stuff.
Thermodynamics say that whatever energy you get from gasification will also be rounding error.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_of_the_Un...
Cheap graphene might be worth it though.
> Pantyhose would become entangled in machinery and bowling balls would break machines
I'm surprised bowling balls are that common in garbage. Strong and stretchy material like pantyhose getting caught seems very plausible though.
There was a recent posting here about a company in this space using pyrolysis to break down the inputs but had serious issues in emissions from the plant.
And then there is the question of scale and sustainability. Recovering hydrogen from what is essentially a product made from fossil fuels to then burn it is not really that helpful. And there is only so much plastic out there that we can recover. At best we get a second use out of the fossil carbon before it is released back into the atmosphere. But you could argue that a landfill at least captures the carbon more permanently. So, labeling this as green or sustainable would be a bit of a stretch of the definition.
It might need more energy than you would spend mining it from a distant star system, or release enough heat to melt the factory, the crew, and the planet it's on, but, still, there is no fundamental law of physics preventing you from doing it.
Just burn it for energy and quit with all the complicated and unnecessary chemistry.
I know I sound a little blunt, but the solution to plastic waste is so incredibly obvious and yet people keep avoiding it.
The majority of the energy we use from burning carbohydrates comes not from oxidating carbon but from oxidating hydrogen: oxidating carbon does release slightly more energy per atom than oxidating hydrogen, but the hydrogen atoms outnumber the carbon ones by far. On the atom level, our society already is mostly hydrogen powered, but unfortunately limited to hydrogen packaged in carbon and we can't burn them separately.
With this technology, if it scales (big if, no question about that!), we can burn the oxygen for energy while retaining the carbon as stable, even somewhat useful (perhaps not in the amounts post-scaling...) solids that are relatively easy to keep out of the atmospheric cycle. If that really works, it will be a great improvement over what we do and certainly worth spending some of the net energy we'd get from the hydrogen on. And even if the net energy would be zero it could still be worth it, run the plant only at times of intermittent sources surplus. At zero energy balance it would be a 100$ efficiency storage solution (that would solve some of our plastic waste problems on the side)
There is a simplified view and a more accurate view, and neither involves oxidizing mostly hydrogen.
The simplified view, which is good enough for a qualitative explanation and for approximate quantitative computations, is that, because carbon is more electronegative than hydrogen, all the hydrogen in carbohydrates or hydrocarbons is already completely oxidized.
When those burn, only the carbon is oxidized and the hydrogen ions just move from carbon to oxygen, making water.
In this simplified view, a carbon atom from carbohydrates gives on average 4 electrons to oxygen, while a carbon atom from fatty substances or saturated hydrocarbons gives around 6 electrons to oxygen.
With the energy gained by moving an electron from carbon to oxygen of slightly more than 1 electron-volt, you can compute approximate values for the combustion heats, based on the chemical formulas.
The more accurate view is that the difference in electronegativity between hydrogen and carbon is small, so the hydrogen in carbohydrates is only partially oxidized, i.e. in each hydrogen-carbon bond the electron does not completely belong to carbon, but it belongs e.g. 60% to carbon and 40% to hydrogen.
While taking into account that the hydrogen-carbon bonds are not ionic, but they are mostly covalent, with only a small ionic component, is necessary in many contexts, for understanding burning and any other redox reactions this is not necessary and the simpler view with the completely oxidized hydrogen is more useful and it is good enough.
In any case, it is not acceptable to say that hydrogen is the one that is mostly oxidized when burning carbohydrates, because if the electrons grabbed by oxygen were attributed to hydrogen that would correspond to an energy per electron of more than 1.25 electron-volt, resulting in much higher combustion heats than obtained experimentally.
Also, the energy per atom produced by burning carbon is not slightly higher, but it is much higher than when burning hydrogen. Because hydrogen is more electropositive, the energy per electron is a little higher, but a carbon atom gives many times more electrons when oxidized (4 electrons when pure, up to 8 in compounds). Where hydrogen is better, is at energy per mass, because its atoms are much lighter.
Because hydrogen is more electropositive than carbon, non-oxidized hydrogen, i.e. pure hydrogen, produced either directly or indirectly by the internal heat of the Earth or produced by the photolysis of water done by the phototrophic living beings, e.g. plants, can spontaneously (i.e. without additional energy) reduce the carbon dioxide into organic substances, so in this sense it can be said that all life is hydrogen-powered, because it is the universal intermediate between the primary energy sources and the organic matter.
However, once the organic substances have been synthesized, the energy surplus contained in pure hydrogen has been consumed and the remaining energy, which can be obtained by burning the organic substances, to recover the water and the carbon dioxide from which they have been made, is the energy corresponding to the oxidation of the included carbon, not of the included hydrogen.
(that's my mental model of chemistry: stuff "wants" to go down but there are plenty of local minima where certain combinations can rest until "shaken out", never made it to the point where I could reason about why certain combinations are local minima)
This requires a great amount of energy.
By burning the obtained hydrogen, depending on the amount of hydrogen in the original hydrocarbon, there are good chances to obtain more energy than used for pyrolysis, if all the processes are done carefully, to avoid losses (the reason why energy can be gained is that every new hydrogen-oxygen bond corresponds to an old hydrogen-carbon bond replaced by a half of a hydrogen-hydrogen bond and a half of a carbon-carbon bond, and even when ignoring the other bonds and ignoring the weak old oxygen-oxygen bond, a hydrogen-oxygen bond is strong enough in comparison to a hydrogen-carbon bond to ensure a positive energy balance).
Nevertheless, the amount of energy obtained in this way would be much less than the energy obtained by burning the hydrocarbon derivative at the beginning, so this would be a waste that could be justified only if the graphene could be sold at a high price.
If it is desired to not release carbon dioxide, then the original hydrocarbon derivative should be left alone and hydrogen should be obtained from water.
If the hydrocarbon derivative needs to be destroyed, it is easier to ensure a clean process for burning followed by carbon dioxide capture, than for pyrolysis, which can produce many dangerous substances.
This would really make sense for the plastic that will not be able to be recycled (which is in fact 99% of it).
Just what is ivory anyway? It's teeth in some kind of plywood like structure:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S17427...
Some plastic things can be directly replaced with it:
http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/distinguish_iv_bon_cel.h...
The US has plenty of space for landfills. Japan has very little space.
But ultimately, landfills and incinerators are both bad solutions. CO2 capturing for incinerators would be somewhat sensible, but there is currently no plant doing that. There were plans for one in Oslo, but that just got put on hold due to increasing costs.