Teen arrested in England after felling ancient tree
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I know it won't be the same, it won't heal the wound, at least not for hundreds of years, if ever. But it's just how society and the world is. Great things are made and appreciated, treasured even, and endure for a while, then they are broken by something, one way or another. And you can't undo that damage, but you can start over and build again. And that's all you can ever do. And although it may not seem like much now, there can perhaps still be greatness in the future again if we start to build it now. That greatness may not be exactly the same as the greatness of old, but it can be great in its own way.
I’d say the real wound is the total lack of trees for miles around this location. England has some of the lowest tree cover, 12%.
It was jarring to me, you go to a national park and it’s just bald hills stretching as far as the eye can see.
I am not sure if thats just how people like it, or they are just so used to it they dont question it
- Lisel Mueller
"Dumb but not malicious"
The kid was trying to get pocket money, and he was tasked to cut down the tree.
He thought it was a legitimate job, so he took down the tree.
This is also why he used professional tools like a chainsaw.
Unfortunately, we cannot identify the requester + the kid had no way to verify the Tree Preservation Order because of technical issues;
(the website with the TPO actually yields an error "This request was blocked by our security service (Imperva)" / "Page not found", depending on the dataset you pick)
As an aside, I think it's quite interesting what various countries consider "ancient." A tree that's not even 200 years old wouldn't be considered especially old on the west coast of the US, but a building that's 100 years old would; in the UK, it's often the reverse. (I fully understand why this is the case, given the relative ages of the countries and their levels of deforestation, but it's a fun curiosity anyway.)
It's not famous for it's age but because it's appearance and location made it a loved landmark despite it's youth.
Our oldest tree is the Fortingall Yew which is up to 5000 years old.
Anyone who read the article already understands what it's famous for.
I'm saying that the previous comment did not claim the tree was famous for it's ancientness. Their remark simply remarked upon what the title said, and by implication, anyone who would write it.
They aren't talking about the tree, or what it's famous for. They are talking about the title author.
That's in Scotland not in England.
https://unfccc.int/process/conferences/pastconferences/doha-...
I'm not sure everyone would understand the expression in that way, though.
(As already discussed in the Wikipedia talk page, now that this tree has been felled, someone should count the rings and tell us exactly how old it was!)
This is so tragic tho. But not really the kind of thing I think locking someone up will solve. I'm thinking more like 5000 hours of community service planting forests all over England. It's not going to bring the poor little tree back...but maybe it can turn a lesson in someone's mind... need to make some good come out of this tragedy.
That doesn’t necessarily mean they have indications he felled it. He could have been there with somebody else, for example, or they may have evidence that he provided the chainsaw.
I do wonder about that “for which his arrest is necessary” part. What would make that necessary in this case?
- When there is a worry that they will continue in criminal activities
- When there is a worry that they might influence other suspects
- When there is a worry that they might escape the country
There is also a fourth one, which is usually not legitimate in democracies:
- To make the suspect uncomfortable and more likely to plea guilty
"A boy, 16, has been held on suspicion of criminal damage and bailed"
Around 1 in 6 species are at risk of extinction from Great Britain, discussing trends over the last 50 years or so, following centuries of major changes to ecosystems and habitats.
Something iconic [2] in imagery/memory/culture, next to clear summary and review.
[1] https://stateofnature.org.uk/ [2] https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/gallery/2023/sep/28/hadr...
(1) https://phys.org/news/2019-10-tropical-deforestation-scienti...
I have never heard anyone say that investors are lazy and not doing their job. What kind of idiots invest in Theranos without doing due dilligence? Why is infrasteucture lacking investment? Why is more money slocking around speculation instead of the real economy?
> The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.
I recently climbed some hills in wales, like 5 miles, there were Zero trees the entire way.
PS: just checked photos from the trip, no trees on any of them. Kind of makes me sad..
What happened: farmers cut down trees, which caused flooding
What kind of property damage results from planting a tree on a hill?
Bingo, exactly why it’s being overcovered, distraction and to keep people busy attacking each other rather than questioning the real problems.
As a 16 year old he'd be a young offender so it would be a special youth prison.
I'm curious how a 16 year old had access to a chainsaw. My guess is someone - parents or friends - incriminated him.
Given he was 16, there's probably a good chance the muppet posted a video or picture on social media.
In some ways what happens legally is the least of his problems. If found guilty he will likely become as reviled as the cat bin woman:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/19/cat-bin-woman-...
Presumably a parent had a chainsaw, kept it in the garage, and the teen had access to the garage.
And 16 isn't that young - you can leave school at age 16 and start working full time.
A chainsaw is nothing compared to those, but you’d want some assurances they wouldn’t cut themselves (e.g. be large enough to handle it).
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-powers-to-crack-down-...