Hm. Last I checked, the USA is #12 among nations in firearms deaths. Behind some other first-world countries.
Fun to write stuff like that and feel the righteous indignation. If only it were true.
Fun to write stuff like that and feel the righteous indignation. If only it were true.
Unsurprisingly, then, if you break down the rate of homicide by firearm in the US by race, you see similar statistics. ie. European/White Americans have a rate that puts them among the safer European countries; African Americans are among the highest in the world.
The mass shooting in Vegas, in Tasmania, in Norway, in New Zealand, etc?
As an objective fact (your words) extreme mass shootings are strongly correlated with race.
The rest seem more correlated with economic circumstances.
Except you obviously moved the goalposts there.
The "this" there is no way to prevent, in the only nation where it happens, is school shootings. We are not just at the top of that list, we're at the bottom as well, because it doesn't happen anywhere else.
Hence the title.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_pri...
So much for "this is the only country where this happens".
Granted, some of these are "school stabbings" or "school bombings" or "school throwing kids out of a window", but the death tolls appear to be of similar magnitude. There are exceptions (e.g., Uvalde, where the death toll had more to do with police cowardice than choice of weapon).
The problem here isn't "guy has a gun", the problem is "guy wants to kill a bunch of people". Until the real problem is acknowledged, nothing is going to change.
Which isn't what was said. What was said is this is the only country where this regularly happens. The U.S. comprises 5% of the of the world's population yet endures 24% of the world's primary school attacks over the last 20 years.
Besides, even one example would be enough to refute the OP's claim that "it doesn't happen anywhere else".
The salient point is that this is NOT the only country where this happens. Not even close.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_sec...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_related_to_pos...
I’m sorry, but I do not believe you at all
You: This is the only country where this happens.
Me: False. Here is some data that shows it happens in many other countries.
What is there to "believe" here? All that was necessary to refute you was to find ONE incident in another country. I found dozens. Linking to the other two lists (each of which also have many incidents in other countries) can only further destroy your incorrect assertion. There's no way those can magically make you right. Even if the other two both had zero (which they don't...far from it), that wouldn't matter in the slightest.
Take the L and move on.
You: move every goalpost
All that was necessary to refute you was to find ONE incident in another country.
Is one isolated incident really all that is necessary to refute the Onion's assertion that this is the only country where this regularly happens?
> Which isn't what was said. What was said is this is the only country where this regularly happens.
I beg to differ. That's exactly what was said.
OP:
> The "this" there is no way to prevent, in the only nation where it happens, is school shootings. We are not just at the top of that list, we're at the bottom as well, because it doesn't happen anywhere else.
(emphasis mine)
You:
> The U.S. comprises 5% of the of the world's population yet endures 24% of the world's primary school attacks over the last 20 years.
That's not what those data show. Plenty of attacks in China, for example.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-death...
It's really, really hard for me to understand why gun violence doesn't make you feel indignation, righteous or otherwise.
But right now, I am willing to listen.
>Excessive alcohol use was responsible for more than 140,000 deaths in the United States each year
Firearm deaths don't even break 5 digits.
- Intentional homocides per capita: 59th
- Firearms per person: 1st
- Firearm-related deaths per capita: 9th (and 1–8 are all in Central America or South America, with the exception of Jamaica)