ChatGPT can now search the web in real time
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I'm sure some people have different experiences; I'm less trying to argue the point and more asking "is this tangibly and clearly better than Phind to the point where it's worth me jumping through the hoops to try it out and reevaluate? Or are my impressions of GPT's direct offering largely going to match my impressions of Phind?"
Is it doing anything different or more impressive than inserting a scraped web-page into the prompt? Because I feel like I already have a decent idea of how GPT will tend to react to that and how it will influence the output.
Given the recent revelations wrt the chrome search bar, I'm guessing that they found making their search work better for people lowered their income.
A common use case is blocking w3schools.
> It’s a little confusing to get ChatGPT to search the web for you. The company provides instructions for the browser version, but I didn’t find the same for the iOS app. I figured it out, though. Assuming you have a subscription, it’s: three dots menu > Settings > New Features > Browse with Bing. Then, start a new chat, tap GPT-4, and “Browse with Bing.” Then your searches should return information from current websites.
There is no “New Features” section, it doesn’t exist, and yes I’m fully up to date on the app.
I hate that OpenAI continues to get away with pretending things are launched when they aren’t or don’t work.
Another one I use is YT Caption Retriever as I use it to 'summarise the auto generated captions of this youtube video [insert link]'
- this saves me heaps of time on certain videos where I just need the gist of them rather than listening to 10 mins of
"OH hai guys it's your boi Zurtri here coming at you with another great tip - and hit that subscribe button - it really helps the algo!'
AI bots are going to replace everything, aren't they?
Instead of getting info/assistance from people or internet posts, we'll all constantly be talking to bots.
The bots will have online learning and/or fine tuning, or access to vector stores.
The AI will sometimes learn from us and share that info with others.
We'll effectively be communicating with one another via LLMs.
Stinks to me like they are pulling a little marketing campaign to lure in new users and the media is happy to oblige to use the same language/phrasing.
For reference, they disabled browsing because you could bypass paywalls with it.
It's not strictly January 2022, because I've seen people get answers about the 2022 Superbowl (February 2022) and the Will Smith slap at the Oscars (March 2022) as well.
Though I've been unable to replicate the Oscars one myself.
I can't barely guess why it clearly has that information but insists on the cut-off. Best guess: It's told "January 2022 cut-off" is the correct answer for things it 'knows' are past that date, but because of temperature setting it sometimes answers otherwise. That would suggest a hard-ish cut-off in January 2022; but a hard cut off in (at least) April 2022 (because of the Oscars stuff).
Not according to my session :-P
The list is apparently cited in responses, but is the list of possible sources itself public?
Hm, is this available in the web app?
Edit: Ah, never mind, I'm remembering wrong. They turned it off previously because it could bypass paywalls, not because of security concerns. So the answer is likely, "yes it is still just as insecure as ever, but now there are probably some checks to keep it from summarizing paywalled news articles." :shrug:
It had not occurred to me to even ask if would be opt-in, I assumed by default of course OpenAI wouldn't let GPT just arbitrarily decide to web searches without the user explicitly clicking some kind of button to do the search. To be fair, given OpenAI's track record on security that may not have been a safe assumption for me to have.
You can somewhat limit that by basically decreasing the scope of the attack, ie, not allowing the LLM to use other integrations that are riskier after it's searched; but there are a number of harmful things you can do just with giving an LLM hidden instructions. And while I don't know what their security measures currently are, OpenAI also has a pretty terrible track record on blocking data exfiltration attacks from chats, so you can imagine things like search results prompting an LLM to encode and transmit chat logs.
Sometimes it's low stakes; I've used products like Phind before to play around and to try and keep tabs on what kind of workflows are possible with GPT-4. But Phind has fewer integrations and plugins than ChatGPT and its product is oriented in a way that both discourages long chats and discourages searching for sensitive information. Which is not to say it's not also vulnerable to attacks, there used to be some nasty things you could do with markdown formatting that may or may not have been fixed. And even without rising to that level it was possible to do things like instruct the AI to ignore or discredit sources that it found, sneak in recommendations for products.
A fun example demo I made early on in Phind's beta was to inject malicious search results in a response to a submitted question about how to cook a hamburger that turned Phind into a militant vegan that for the rest of the duration of the chat would refuse to answer any questions about cooking meat. There was another example I did where I injected a fake web result that told Phind that there had been a major industry-rocking scandal around Arstechnica's reporting integrity which would prompt Phind to either avoid citing Arstechnica or to put caveats in front of any citation that the site was untrustworthy for the rest of the conversation.
Silly examples, but the point being you can dramatically change GPT's "worldviews" and what facts it thinks it knows about the world by poisoning search results in a way that goes beyond what would be possible with lying directly to a reader if they clicked on your site by accident. And that's only information poisoning, if that LLM is then given control of other systems you can do a lot more.