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Sonoma is the 21st release of a Mac operating system based on NeXTSTEP. The switch to 11 marked the transition to Apple Silicon. The code names have been used as an alternate name since 10.2 Jaguar as a way at the time to differentiate from and shame Microsoft’s Longhorn (Vista).

1. Mac OS X Public Beta (Kodiak) - 2000

2. Mac OS X 10.0 (Cheetah) - 2001

3. Mac OS X 10.1 (Puma) - 2001

4. Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) - 2002

5. Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther) - 2003

6. Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) - 2005

7. Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) - 2007

8. Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) - 2009

9. Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) - 2011

10. OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion) - 2012

11. OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) - 2013

12. OS X 10.10 (Yosemite) - 2014

13. OS X 10.11 (El Capitan) - 2015

14. macOS 10.12 (Sierra) - 2016

15. macOS 10.13 (High Sierra) - 2017

16. macOS 10.14 (Mojave) - 2018

17. macOS 10.15 (Catalina) - 2019

18. macOS 11 (Big Sur) - 2020

19. macOS 12 (Monterey) - 2021

20. macOS 13 (Ventura) - 2022

21. macOS 14 (Sonoma) - 2023

> 4. Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar) - 2002

Or “Jagwire”, as Steve Jobs said:

https://youtu.be/nXJsS4B42_Q?t=708

That's how Jaguar is pronounced in American English.

Because of course it is.

I've never heard someone pronounce it that way in my life until I saw the video. Maybe it's a regional thing, but it sounds like the wrong vowel sound at the end to me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fsseq2/comment/f...

> For fuck's sake, you invented the language, why do you suck at it?

A question for the ages.

Yes, I agree with that post that the USian pronunciation as given there is better than the British one. But Jobs' rendering of the American pronunciation also sounds wrong to me because the final syllable doesn't generally rhyme with 'wire' as I've heard most Americans pronounce the word.

It may be regional. Jobs grew up in Mountain View and I grew up in Santa Clara, just a few miles down the road. My parents and teachers always said something resembling "jag-wire" in pronunciation.

That makes sense to me. Ahr/ire is a pair that gets swapped or blended in other American accents as well, after all! Many Southern accents basically do the same kind of blending but in the other direction.

Is it? I browsed a bunch of YouTube videos this way and no one said it like jagwire:

https://youglish.com/pronounce/jaguar/english/us?

It may be regional, but I was born and raised in Silicon Valley / SF South Bay, like Steve Jobs, and my parents and teachers all said "jagwire." I don't pronounce it that way myself anymore, but that's because if I say it I'm often talking about the car brand, and I know the brits pronounce it differently so I do the same.

Do some google search for "jagwire" and you'll find tons of results about Americans pronouncing it that way.

EDIT: The word comes from a Native American language via Portuguese. I'm not sure about the indigenous phonetics, but the Portuguese pronunciation is closer to "jagwire" than the British pronunciation.

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