This claim is always thrown out like a life preserver without ever anything to back it up. Do you have anything to support this claim?
This claim is always thrown out like a life preserver without ever anything to back it up. Do you have anything to support this claim?
I accept that chinese authorities generally have access to anything they want to in the country, so I would buy that they have access to drone data.
So just like the US ?
So, I turn to them: is there anything that proves its a surveillance-free device? No, they cannot assure that.
Someone may not like it, but China now has a very, very bad reputation among people in the West. Especially after the last pandemic and how they handled it.
Can Google and Apple prove that their stuff is surveillance-free, though?
In the absence of a surveillance-free device, people prefer the one with the better rep.
Where? Maybe in the west, certainly not in the rest of the world. China didn't start a war that killed 1million people not even 20 years ago. Westerners don't care about that but that's to be expected.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
The US military complex is beyond dirty and its grip on govt power makes everyone sick in the West and the East.
But reducing the US to that and then doing a comparison with the Chinese government and ideology is unfair, in my opinion.
This doesn't qualify for "not even 20 years ago".
Have you ever been to China and the US?
You may think they're equally awful, but a LOT of people disagree.
China's reputation is in really bad shape among people in the West. Despite also being under surveillance, that's why many prefer American or European tech.
It would be trivial to prove this to be true, and there is zero of that proof. Hell, at this point it would be valuable to even see small phone homes by Mavic software from the last year, but I doubt you even have that.
There are plenty of other reasons not to buy this drone, so the lies are completely uncalled for.
Surveillance doesn't always run 24/7 for every device. The signal/noise ratio would be extremely low.
To keep a high ratio, it's selectively switched on for high interest targets.
There's no reason for a drone flying on my backyard to send any data to China. Their privacy protection is inexistent. You can ask it to be conceivably whatever horse shit you like, I don't care. I don't want any bytes sent there.
1. https://www.google.com/search?q=ccp+chinese+tech+surveillanc...
The word you're trying to find is not "speculation", but "suspicion":
1. a feeling or thought that something is possible, likely, or true.
2. cautious distrust.
You may like China or think there's no difference between the US and China. But saying there's no reason to be suspicious of a Chinese device is putting you in the realm of unreasonable...
I never claimed I “liked” China or equated China to the US at all, nor did I say suspicion of Chinese made electronics was without merit. What I said was the specific claim being made was unsupported by evidence that would be trivially collectable if the claim were true.
And no, my word choice was intentional. You seem to be arguing against the common criticisms of your position, but you are ignoring my actual issues. I recommend rereading what I wrote and trying again.
What I'm saying is China's reputation is way, waaaaay worse than the US' among people in the West, in general.
That's why they prefer American or European technologies and products.
If so, then there is nothing else needed. People forget how sketchy closed source software is.
DJI does not produce infrastructure pieces so it hasn’t reached the same urgency to the US, so it’s still allowed.
For the infrastructure, for legit strategic reasons (without even considering they are abusing it, you generally don't want to rely on foreign infrastructure on your territory).
For the smartphones, that's pure commercial war. Huawei was a big competitor.
Big competitor of what? There’s no popular Android phone OEM in the US. Sounds like you’re making stuff up.
Many people around me liked Huawei because they were seeing it as the Android brand that "is closest to Apple".
> Sounds like you’re making stuff up.
Don't get me wrong: I am not part of the US government and I was not part of the official decision. I'm just sharing my opinion :-).
https://www.canalys.com/newsroom/canalys-global-smartphone-m...
US understandably wants their spyware in the world's infra. The rest of the planet might not see it that black and white.
They are in an economic war and are competing about whose spyware people use. I dont see how given that you can take this as a sensible metric.
Not arguing against your main point though, your line of reasoning is just flawed. The US would have reason to behave like this even if Chinese spyware wasnt a threat.