Basic HTML, like any other simple and easily understood systems that anyone can implement without much effort, are essentially a threat to their agenda.
To paraphrase an old saying: "Gmail ain't done 'til Firefox won't run."
Basic HTML, like any other simple and easily understood systems that anyone can implement without much effort, are essentially a threat to their agenda.
To paraphrase an old saying: "Gmail ain't done 'til Firefox won't run."
I think you're misremembering this. Web Outlook's needs are what drove the enabling technology, a few years before GMail appeared.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMLHttpRequest#History
GMail had its own early selling points early on, one of them being much more storage than competitors.
If i remember, xmlhttprequest was originally for the desktop outlook client not the website. Gmail was special because it was a website not desktop app.
Edit: seems like i'm wrong. I'd still argue that gmail is what brought it to popular attention for the masses.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090130092236/http://www.alexho...
Unfortunately, IIRC IE was rather leaky and the app started to crawl if you used it too much without refreshing the entire page. (I left that job before the app went live, so I don't know if they deployed it as-is or reverted to full server-side mode.) IMO, what really made interactive web apps more practical was both Netscape and IE--but especially IE--getting their act together and writing a browser that didn't leak memory life a sieve when you made heavy use of their new APIs for manipulating the document dynamically.
EDIT: Dan Steinman and DynAPI: https://www.dansteinman.com/dynduo/
Except gmail has great compatibility with firefox.
Honestly all these google are evil conspiracies are exhausting. Its not that google wouldn't be evil, its just that the simple reason makes much more sense, especially from a business perspective. Google does what is best for google. It obviously shuts down little used projects to save $$$, not as a personal vendetta against individual hn users.
And that happens to be evil for whoever is not Google. No need for a conspiracy here.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29551802
This model was sustainable when the internet was adding millions of users per year, but as internet access reaches saturation - Google must do something.
I'd prefer if it was "pay for your email" - but internet users have been openly hostile to paying for anything for 39 years
I think you missed something in their business model.
And I believe gmail works fine with Firefox? Did last time I used it anyway. Does it not work for you?
And gmail still supports POP/IMAP and SMTP I assume? Whenever I had to use gmail for work I used to Hillary my emails to FastMail. Always worked pretty well. Can also mutt or Thunderbird or whatnot.
Maintaining these things, even without user-visible changes, can actually be quite time-consuming and difficult.