> There is no need for such language.

I'm not real bright, can you highlight and quote the exact phrase used above that you object to? (Was it "Shelly" perhaps?)

> argument for veganism was never about not killing animals but about how much suffering factory-farmed animals go through

So, to be clear here, you're absolutely A-OK with the traditional steppe herding practices of treating animals well and then, when needing to kill them for meat, hugging them and quickly cutting open the chest and directly stopping the heart?

It's a well cared for life with as rapid and relatively painless death as can be wished for.