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Thanks Apple for pairing more and more components thus making my phone a less desirable target for thieves. One of the reasons I will keep buying iphone.

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Yeah, approximately no one actually repairs their repairable devices, so making them smaller and more integrated might be better and less wasteful overall.

I've replaced the battery at least once in all the phones I've had, and two other parts in my last phone. On the other hand, none of my phones has ever been stolen. And it's not just me, my neighbourhood has several repair shops.

It’s still an optimization problem, and the results might be surprising

Fair enough. I'm open to data on that.

Screw the future, just so you don't have to keep your phone in your pocket or in your hand? Are the other reasons equally shitty?

I think cheaply available replacement parts ready from the manufacturer would be a much more desirable deterrent for thieves. Louis Rossman's battle with calibrating the angle sensor on the MacBook Pro is a great indicator that these restrictions aren't always done for security reasons since the part in question is worth pennies.

Louis Rossman is also a dishonest person who makes money off the whole controversy. He purposely does things to make the situations seem worse and has even been called out for outright lying (I stopped following after he claimed there was an issue with MacBooks when he purposely used an unshielded cable to cause the issue he was claiming).

I didn't know that. Mind sharing the source?

you think losing the right to repair just so that some hypothetical thief can't hypothetically take and resell your phone is a reasonable trade....?

absolute nonsense.

Pairing components doesn't make the device theft proof.

Overwhelmingly phones are stolen and sold as-is, not chop shopped. Chop shopping is generally not a lucrative business because availability of 3rd party parts is a lower cost than the time required to disassemble.

The availability of manufactured parts significantly out scales independent sales.

Contrary to common thought, Apple has a particular issue wherein they are focused upon for repair because their vertical integration results in few models. Less models = more focus on methods to repair.

This means that apples intentional methods to prevent repair are not for your benefit, they're for profits. You can have security and repair.

>Overwhelmingly phones are stolen and sold as-is, not chop shopped.

That's not true. An icloud-locked iphone is a paperweight. Only the components are worth something. Well, were ;)

Which is why thieves will sometimes ask you to unlock your phone.

Most phone thefts are snatch and run. No chance to rob you and demand your passcode. Every second they have to deal with you trying to give your passcode is one they might get caught. Also, it requires your apple ID passward to remove iCloud lock, not just the passcode.

Yes, and they're stolen and sold as-is. It's known as fraud.

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