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Comment by tpmx | Hacker News Reader

Scope creep in the Mozilla Foundation. (Useful research for sure though.)

Mozilla's brand is not a browser, it's privacy and digital freedom.

I would agree that it's brand isn't a browser, considering most people have never heard of it. Makes me wonder what they could do if they actually advertised it.

Most people don't give a shit about browsers and only know about chrome because the multi-tens-of-billions of dollars advertising and web search behemoth plastered ads on every search for a decade.

I really did try to switch to Firefox, but it’s buggy on macOS. Tabs keep hanging in air. Also screen sharing is primitive compared to Chrome…

huh? My main browser is FF on macOS. I currently have ~350 tabs open across multiple windows. I have zero bugginess.

I consider Chrome primitive because it lacks vertical tabs (kinda necessary with >10 tabs open at once). You can't even get workable vertical tabs with an extension on Chrome!

I have no idea if the situation has changed there, but in the early 2010s when I worked for Mozilla there was an ongoing issue where Windows was the less exercised platform internally because almost everyone had a MacBook on their desk.

Strange. I've been using Firefox on macOS for the last 10 years and it's still working well for me, including to access Google services.

Tabs work very well in Firefox for me. I have 17083 tabs open at the moment, on my 2013 Macbook Pro, still going strong.

The Containers are great for separation of concerns and for multiple accounts like work vs personal, business shopping vs personal shopping, etc.

I tried Safari for a while but switched back to Firefox. I use Ungoogled Chromium occasionally to generate PDF invoices and have used it for a better Google Hangouts experience, but otherwise rarely open it

It is? I'm not being snarky, that's just not what come to mind for me when I think about Mozilla.

https://mozilla.org

Looks like it.

I mean, I think of the dinosaur and the web suite, but I'm aged and live in a tech bubble.

I'd argue that the primary audience for Mozilla Foundation foundrasings etc is the tech bubble people.

In the end: it's about getting Mozilla browser users to donate to something other than the Mozilla browser.

So now we essentially have two EFFs, both based in the bay area?

I guess I just like my foundations tight and focused.

this is the kind of scope creep I love to see!

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