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US Government Bars Wuhan Institute From US Funding for Next 10 Years [pdf]

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"...In summary, the NIH determined that WIV may have conducted an experiment yielding a level of viral activity which was greater than permitted under the terms of the grant. The NIH gave WIV several opportunities to address and/or rebut the NIH determination, but WIV failed to do so. WIV conducted an experiment that violated the terms of the grant regarding viral activity, which possibly did lead or could lead to health issues or other unacceptable outcomes..."

Pardon the cynicism but the US government is notorious for shipping money and "aid" overseas and then have no way of accounting for it, no way for proving it was used as intended by those it was intended for.

More political theatre for entertaining the naive

> More political theatre for entertaining the naive

Unnecessary cynicism because in science and research spending, there are a lot of tightly implemented controls (which makes sense). I think perhaps you're conflating this scenario with defense spending accountability, which is loosey-goosey by design (which also makes sense, I think).

I'm not confused. Certainly not as much as Uncle Sam. Consider the source article. Why didn't the "tightly implemented controls" *prevent* this? It didn't. Uncle Sam is just as human as the rest of us. In fact, Aunt History would argue even more flawed.

Please, let's stop being so naive. It's not working.

Because it definitely wasn't a lab leak?

It was obvious pretty early on that both the US and China knew but were lying. Same with 9/11 and building 7.

It seems the more obvious the truth and the bigger the lie the more willing people are to believe the lie.

I guess knowing everyone is believing the same lie must be comforting for most people or something???

It definitely wasn't until it was the most likely scenario according to the US DoE and others, as of a few months ago.

If you think it's a lab leak you're an anti science conspiracy theorist.

Oops, it's not 2021 anymore it's 2023. Sorry let me try again.

If you think it's a lab leak that's perfectly reasonable. A lot of credible government agencies have made statements about that being a possibility.

I think Colbert owes John Stewart an apology.

So....was it a lab leak?

Probably

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