why can't these talents just find normal jobs
> Another finding in the report was that of all reported cyber crimes in India, almost half (47.25 percent) involved Unified Payments Interface (UPI) fraud. Debit, credit card and sim swap fraud came in a distant second place with 11.27 percent. Overall, financially motivated crime accounted for 77.41 percent of incidents.
Talented criminals are rare. And those talents mostly go behind bars while the above criminals loom at large.
easy to get in, low skill requirements, good pay
there's a distaste on this one but this is mostly social psychology at work.
there are things people will do to provide for themselves and to improve their quality of life as long as they get away with it.
hell, it can be equated to online copywriters of fake fat loss pills and cosmetic products, people buying identities, vpns, ad accounts.
wherever you go there's always someone tryna take advantage of the sucker in the room.
god i love people, haha.
i heard it first hand.
Cyber crime usually targets external countries and it brings money in to the local economy, so little incentive for the government to target it
Same as hackers in Russia having impunity as long as they're not targeting USSR countries
abstract terms with no implications
Compare that with solid $ figures: if there's 1B in cyber crime money flowing to India per year split by 100k workers
that's $10k/year each, double average salary in india
Same like Russia, there can be a lot of complaints about Russia, but everyone still buying oil from Russia
The Indian version of the FBI can't operate in states without their explicit permission, and there have been multiple cases where state police will end up arresting each other because competing politicians in neighboring states would file motions against each other. For example - https://m.timesofindia.com/india/explainer-inter-state-polic...
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/delhi/international-cyber-...
I can post 2 dozen such bust-ups in the last few years alone. The problem is that India is large nation with a humongous internet-growing population and the Indian police are still far behind their western counterparts. Also, compared to the FBI, the Indian CBI lacks teeth.
Please note that the FBI also ranks India as among the top five countries in terms of total cybercrime victims.
The machine translation of those chats and internal read me docs from Russian to English resulted in some hilarious loss of nuance - sentences like “removing the admins eggs” (which is idiom - eggs meaning balls, and more so meant subverting the admins privileges).
A lot of baseless speculation here considering that the Indian police regularly work with the FBI to bust up cyber-crime - and this is regularly reported. Could you please offer some evidence to support your allegations ?
From my side: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/cbi-and-delhi-police-...
https://theprint.in/india/delhi-police-busts-international-c...
https://indianexpress.com/article/india/cbi-operation-target...
India is a hot spot for cyber crime and scam call centers
Sure you can read articles about apprehensions every single day, but India is a big country, arresting 10 people every day makes no difference if there's (imagine) 100k people in the industry at any given time
Scamming a Westerner can be worth a year’s pay even if they net a few thousand dollars. Whereas the legitimate jobs pay far less.
It also requires less skill to try as a lot of it is social engineering.
https://www.unodc.org/roseap/uploads/documents/Publications/...
The report is for Southeast Asia, but the same may apply for India too.
You should still be able to glean the overall UN position on similar practices.
Whether you intended or not; your comment came across slightly xenophobic. 2 out of 3 main points (UN stance, forced criminality) are on point and shouldn't change based on the geographic region. Your comment read as if you were offended that the same pointsfor SE Asia could ever apply to India.
I hope not though. Either way it's important to acknowledge higher(meta) level perspectives for what they actually say, not who they're about.
If software developer talent is distributed across all classes of society but only the upper classes have access to professional or well paid technical jobs, there will be a surplus of low class tech workers shut out of the legal job market. So they resort to crime.
This is a key component of class.
Even though people in the West think we live in a classless society, Western society really does have classism, but it often is confused with race.
Class is a human problem.
being a person of color or being a low rank caste member doesnt necessarily make you an asshole by birth, but poor living conditions and peer pressure makes you wanna say yes to immoral ez money things. it sucks.
Thanks for downplaying my life experience. Maybe next time, try to engage without totally dismissing peoples feelings!
Imagining a glass ceiling will only undermine my efforts and confidence.
If you look around, I am absolutely sure you will find positive things that Canada provided and keeps providing you that 90% of the kids in my country can't even imagine.
Focus on that. Build confidence. Think that you can break this "glass ceiling". It's in your mind, bro.
As about intelligence and hard work, I think it's up to the people around us to judge ourselves and the results of our work. We need to understand others and be useful to them. That's how we can grow.
To me, it seems you have a mindset that is limiting yourself, making you feel sabotaged by others. This prevents you from learning what you need to do in order to improve and grow.
You might not like what I said. I might be wrong. You might ignore it. Anyways, those are the most honest, hard earned 2 cents I can offer.
I’m being realistic not a victim.
If you can objectively convince yourself that yes, with real examples, that's great for you.
If not, maybe this realistic view is just distracting you or undermining your capacity.
For instance, people in first world countries have a lot of advantages over what I have, but I don't care. Occupying my mental capacity with that doesn't help me advance in life.
Instead, I focused on what's positive. For instance: people in first world countries created the internet, published freely available learning resources and open sourced amazing software. With all of that, I learned English (with help of pirated movies/series + subtitles -- published by first world citizens) and taught myself to code. With these skills and a few years of focused work, I now have a standard of living relatively close to a first world middle class family. That's an amazing feat in my social context and I don't care that people in first world countries get that more easily. It doesn't matter to me. Perhaps I'm even happier than they are, because the struggle makes me value even more what I have now.
But my comments are based on my personal and family life experience.