Meat, milk alternatives could slash food system emissions a third: study

Meat is great. Factory farming not so. I'd like to see governments subsidize farms where the livestock isn't maltreated and pumped full of who knows what.

red meat in middle age is associated with Male Erectile Dysfunction, accelerated tumor growth, and colon cancers, particularly processed meat like hot dogs. But that is a personal topic. On the greater scale, the ability of people to put long-term survival ahead of immediate gratification is part of the remarkable story of humanity.

Both of these are reasons to reconsider absolutism on this topic, no?

Tofu in particular is an amazing, versatile ingredient with so many varieties and ways to prepare it (in western countries we barely scratch the surface)—if all you do with tofu is try to approximate meat, you're wasting its full potential!

NotMilk is pretty good IMO (maybe not if you usually drink milk by the glass), unfortunately they had to shift to only making smaller shelf-stable containers instead of larger refrigerated ones.

Cheese alternatives are lacking though. You can get something okay on a burger, but nothing with any protein to it.

It's a matter of habit. Due to lactose sensitivity I moved to soy and hated it. Got used to a specific brand of rice almond milk and it's the best. Now if some place has only cow milk it tastes funny and not in a good way...

I think that’s a matter of preference.

I've been looking for a decent replacement for milk for a long time, I've tried them all. Oat Milk is what I've finally settled on. Specifically the brand Oatly (which I believe is broadly available) for me has solved the overly oaty taste with their Barista Edition milk. I will say that it is still notably worse than cows milk, but to a degree I can personally live with. But I'd recommend maybe ordering an oat milk latte one day when you're feeling particularly adventurous and just seeing if the downgrade in taste is tenable for you.

Cheese is a whole other kettle of fish, they're all awful.

Perfect Day has engineered yeast to make milk proteins. They're selling ice cream made of actual milk, produced from yeast.

> (decaf) latte

I'm running on regular coffee, no milk.

> Oh wait I forgot about cheese

Try https://www.vegancheese.co/discover - 1800+ plant based cheeses, perhaps one or two would satisfy your taste buds? :)

> life without milk is udderly untenable

I've missed yoghurt the most. Fortunately coconut milk based yoghurts are quite palatable.

Sorry, I have to. Did you know that dairy is scary? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI

I'm interested in whatever nutritional profile produces the lowest long term disease risk.

It doesn't seem like they fully know what that is, or if it's the same for everyone.

They keep putting out studies saying plants are healthy, and I don't eat any meat, but occasionally you see people say their health improved on a carnivore diet, and nobody seems to know if it's a real effect or what is causing it, or what genetic factors might influence it.

Everyone just talks a lot about bioavailable nutrients, but I would imagine that unless you're a bodybuilder, finding the optimal amount of each nutrient would be more interested than just trying to maximize everything, which is what some people seem to be doing.

I'm kind of amazed that it's still not really fully clear what the healthiest way to eat is.

Seems like most scientists are pretty well in favor of Mediterranean though, right?

If people would get over the soy myth, it would be much easier.