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Comment by TaylorAlexander | Hacker News Reader

I am one of the more powerful open source fanatics out there, and yet this constant refrain, over and over, lamenting that the name of the company is inaccurate, is very tiresome. I think we know here. This does not add anything to the discussion IMO. Observing that no weights, code, or paper were released are useful, but the line about “OpenAI is not really open” is IMO tired and unproductive. They aren’t going to change it. It’s just sour grapes at this point.

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So pretty much, "shut up and accept it, peon"

Yeahno... that's not gonna suffice. Squeaky wheel gets the oil!

Shut up and accept what? A company being closed source / for profit? Are we rioting against capitalism or something? Should I get my pitchforks? Just to be sure, we'll include literally all major tech companies, or is only OpenAI the target?

Only openAI, they're the ones absuing the word 'open'

> Are we rioting against capitalism or something?

That would be nice... can we do it Fight Club style?

Are you suggesting that if we complain hard enough about the name on Hacker News that… OpenAI is going to change their name? Because it is my position that this will never succeed, and all we’re doing is adding noise to the discussion here.

I don't want them to change their name, I want them to open-source their models.

And its not about HN, it is about the larger community grumbling. Not that it will do anything but if they're going to annoy us with their disingenuous naming then we can annoy them by calling them out for it. There are a million other names of blithe corpo-jibberish they could use, but they didn't.

And it is oh-so-convenient how discussion that you don't like is "noise". Us smarties are fantastic at rationlizing arent we? Yes let's just limit the conversation to breathless panty-creaming only. I'm sure the CEO would really like that!

I love and use OpenAI services everyday, but I also think a fundamental revulsion at Orwellian doublespeak is fine.

Feeling it is fine. Taking time to say it every single time is tedious. We don’t have to speak every feeling we have.

You don’t have to. It’s clear many of us feel this way, and you’re not the arbiter of which feelings are valid.

Just to be clear I’m explicitly saying the feelings are valid, but that saying them over and over doesn’t add anything to the conversation.

Sure, but when you say something people resonate with it gets upvoted until it's the top comment relatively consistently. So while I have no issue with you objecting to this, most people clearly still agree with it. For what it's worth, I am very much in the "don't be a deceptive asshole" camp.

The other aspect you're missing is once you stop criticizing it, you are passively normalizing it. And that's horseshit. Call out the fuckers that do bad shit more often because they deserve it. I am not saying you are a shill, but you are doing exactly what the company wants - normalizing their shitty behavior and defending them against criticism for it.

I agree - however is it really productive to the discussion if multiple people are commenting the exact same thing every single time? Upvoting one comment that shares this sentiment is enough, in my opinion...otherwise any valid criticisms are overshadowed by this outrage over the name.

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